Originally Posted by 8850

I thought a comparison of 1/4 mile performance was our main topic. You don't want the Premium 5.0 or any of the other stuff that adds weight. Those huge door speakers and extra speakers have to add weight. Definitely don't need the heavy Brembos and 19" wheels/tires for 1/4 mile.

Originally Posted by LS1LT1

That's how I'd be ordering it, just as how I've order every other new car I've bought since 1987.
Sometimes, less is more.

Originally Posted by LS1LT1

Ok, and what do stock 2011 Mustang GT 5.0s run at your track?
I can almost assure you that it's not 12.4s.





And I'm not exactly sure what that means as there is PLENTY of room for error when driving an automatic. Less than there is with a manual of course, but room for error nonetheless.
This has been proven by drivers who weigh even less than I do still going slower than me in my automatic at the same track on the same day.

Originally Posted by Anthony @ LGMotorsports

I do a back to back comarison....at least dyno wise.





2006 MN6 LS2 Corvette #2 blue lines
2011 MN6 5.0L Mustang #3 red lines
2010 MN6 LS3 Camaro #1 green lines

Of course none of that shows weight...but at least a good idea on a stock baseline HP to the tire number

Originally Posted by Fuego

I meant ,if you wanted the gearing and suspension, you have to buy the premium package. The gearing is SUPPOSED to make them faster even with the extra shift. Careful, the" extra shift slowing you down rather than making you faster" might **** off the z51 and GS crowd. j/k

Originally Posted by 8850

Exactly except with an automatic so I could put a loose converter in it and blow the 3.73 manuals away. With that 4.17 first gear and 3.15 differential that's all the gear these cars need along with a loose converter.

Originally Posted by m R g S r

nice comparo! i like the 2011 stangs fo sho! my neighbor has a red 2011 cobra...that thing sounds meann when he starts it up (his exhaust faces my driveway lol)

Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49

I drove my son's mn6 3.73 5.0 before the intake, tune and mufflers and thought it was a step up from the Camaro SS, weighty disapointment that it is. But I knew my A6 ,NPP, 2.73 LS3 would indeed smoke it.

But after those cheap mods rhe 5.0 came alive. I have had 2 LS3's , one A6 and the other MN6 and in stock form ,the LS3's better not assume a damn thing against a lightly modded 5.0.

Originally Posted by Rock'n Blue 08

I haven't seen them run. Haven't been to the track. No roll cage with no plans to put one in.
I'm sure the ls-3's still are in charge.
Plenty of room for driver error with a automatic?

Originally Posted by dennis50nj

Hi Bob, maybe with that manual and driver error you don't need a roll bar

Originally Posted by AirBusPilot

It's much harder to get a consistent launch with a manual transmission than an auto. Much harder. Two feet and both hands, versus one foot, one hand. That's the main reason auto's rule the drag strip where consistency wins.

Originally Posted by dennis50nj

only if your a one leg i hand man

Originally Posted by AirBusPilot

Let me guess, you use both feet on the throttle to get that extra power? lol

So, that's your secret!

Originally Posted by 8850

Exactly except with an automatic so I could put a loose converter in it and blow the 3.73 manuals away. With that 4.17 first gear and 3.15 differential that's all the gear these cars need along with a loose converter.

Originally Posted by AirBusPilot

It's much harder to get a consistent launch with a manual transmission than an auto. Much harder. Two feet and both hands, versus one foot, one hand. That's the main reason auto's rule the drag strip where consistency wins.

Originally Posted by yell03

Found this post on a Mustang Forum with his mods and times...

I had an ls3 vette (brand new 2009), and I enjoy the 2011 5.0 more than the vette. The vette was fast (I had headers, airbox, tune), and had a certain cool factor, but I didnt like how stiff the ride was. The mustang is just an easier car to get in a drive, and for some reason I dont mind beating on the mustang a little...LOL
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2011 Mustang GT Premium CA Special. 6 Speed manual, Magnaflow street series catback, Lethal Off Road pipe, Steeda cai, SCT X3 tuner with Custom Evolution performance tune, Nitto Dr's. 12.15 @ 117.51mph

Originally Posted by dennis50nj

i only use 1 hand to launch, your right i use two feet, i would use the same two feet in a manual i wonder why gm would waste so much money on AH&TC on the point and shoot cars

Originally Posted by LS1LT1

I agree 100% and I don't think anyone is even trying to refute that.
The discussion here is more about whether or not driver skill/driver input/driver error plays any role whatsoever in extracting the absolute all out best 1/4 mile pass from an automatic transmissioned Mustang GT (or Corvette).
I believe that Dennis and I have both proven that the driver absolutely can make a difference, even when comparing two different relatively skilled drivers. Same car, same track, same day.

Originally Posted by AirBusPilot

Taking your foot off the brake at the start isn't really the same as getting the right clutch slip for a good launch.

Originally Posted by AirBusPilot

It's much harder to get a consistent launch with a manual transmission than an auto. Much harder. Two feet and both hands, versus one foot, one hand. That's the main reason auto's rule the drag strip where consistency wins.