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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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Thanks to all who replied to my post about C6 engine rebuild costs, I had absolutely no idea what the $$$ might be.

What are the most likely/frequent failures on a high mileage C6? In other words, what do I need to look out for? I don't want to buy a beater and would like to avoid buying someone else's disaster.
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I'll let others who are more qualified respond to your question, but I will make two comments. First, high mileage in and of itself is not necessarily a problem with these cars. If it's been well-maintained and not abused a c6 can go a lot of miles. Second, many owners put very few miles on their Vettes, and low-mileage doesn't command that much of a price premium. So there may not be much reason to buy a high-mileage one.
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I think the first thing to say is that C6s are in general very reliable. You need to look out for electrical issues on the early c6s (especially the 2005). There have been a lot of running changes throughout the life of the C6 so the year does have somewhat of an impact.

The only comment I have is that my neighbor has a C6 track car that he also drives frequently on the road. I want to say that he has approximately 60K miles on his car with too many track days to count. The powertrain is still original except for the rear diff I believe. These are great cars. I am no C6 expert so I will step aside and let the experts speak.
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Just a couple general things to be concerned about on a older high mileage car. Sensors, timing chain, lifters, alternator, water pump, AC compressor, dried up and leaking seals and gaskets, clutch and pressure plate, brakes, carbon build up.
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I think the first thing to say is that C6s are in general very reliable. You need to look out for electrical issues on the early c6s (especially the 2005). There have been a lot of running changes throughout the life of the C6 so the year does have somewhat of an impact.

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You can buy a brand new car and have electrical or any other issue. My 05 is as early as it gets and I've had absolutely no electrical issue and my that's including the 7 years with the blower on it!
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Originally Posted by John Harry
I'll let others who are more qualified respond to your question, but I will make two comments. First, high mileage in and of itself is not necessarily a problem with these cars. If it's been well-maintained and not abused a c6 can go a lot of miles. Second, many owners put very few miles on their Vettes, and low-mileage doesn't command that much of a price premium. So there may not be much reason to buy a high-mileage one.
Thanks John, My experience so far has led me to believe that there are a surprising # of low mileage C6s, but there is a fairly significant price differential ($5K-$10K) between high and low mileage cars. Very difficult for me to determine which is the 'better buy'. There seems to be another $5K price difference between dealer and private sale cars. Maybe worth it if Certified, but otherwise, not so much. It also appears that 2006 C6s are often overpriced relative to the later cars? No idea why, or even if that is true. I have no prejudice against the 2006's by-the-way.
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My experience so far has led me to believe that . . . there is a fairly significant price differential ($5K-$10K) between high and low mileage cars. It also appears that 2006 C6s are often overpriced relative to the later cars?
Interesting you're seeing those differences. Trying to figure out pricing can be tough, since you can see what they're asking but not what they're actually getting. And some sellers are totally out of it. My brother-in-law was just at a dealer looking at a 2004 TBird. They were asking $6k (!) over Kelly Blue Book, which is around $12k.
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Your absolute best bet is to buy a low-mileage, STOCK (mechanically) car from the ORIGINAL (mature) owner . And by 'low' I mean no less than 3K a year. Ultra low mileage is not good either IMO. Yes, you'll always pay more for a low mileage example, but it's well worth it IMO, especially from original owner. No dealer or wholesaler would have abused the car, plus it'd most likely be sitting inside a garage, pampered by its owner. A low mileage car is going to be in MUCH better overall condition for obvious reasons. I always buy new because I'm picky as hell, so whoever buys my car in the future, will basically buy a brand new car at a fraction of the cost, and with over $3K in purely cosmetic upgrades that should have come from the factory. And I'd have never abused my car, nor modifying it mechanically in any way. You just need to find an owner like me . There're a lot more than you think, but you have to be patient. Good luck man.
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Originally Posted by saplumr
You can buy a brand new car and have electrical or any other issue. My 05 is as early as it gets and I've had absolutely no electrical issue and my that's including the 7 years with the blower on it!
I have not had any electrical problems either. I have noticed people seem to knock the 2005, but from what I have seen on this forum there are just as many problems and maybe even more with newer year models.
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IMO, I think its best to buy with an "average" amount of miles. The reason is that all of the common issues(balancer, leaky pan gasket to name a couple) may have already been taken care of. Low mileage cars probably have not run into the common issues yet, therefore will need repair at some point, and more than likely will be out of warranty
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Originally Posted by John Harry
I'll let others who are more qualified respond to your question, but I will make two comments. First, high mileage in and of itself is not necessarily a problem with these cars. If it's been well-maintained and not abused a c6 can go a lot of miles. Second, many owners put very few miles on their Vettes, and low-mileage doesn't command that much of a price premium. So there may not be much reason to buy a high-mileage one.
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Just a couple general things to be concerned about on a older high mileage car. Sensors, timing chain, lifters, alternator, water pump, AC compressor, dried up and leaking seals and gaskets, clutch and pressure plate, brakes, carbon build up.

AAARRGGG! Makes me want to run out and buy one today!
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I have not had any electrical problems either. I have noticed people seem to knock the 2005, but from what I have seen on this forum there are just as many problems and maybe even more with newer year models.
No way. But you'd probably have to have been on the forum since the get-go to appreciate it. The '05's had a lot of significant engineering defects and teething problems that the newer ones evolved out of. My own list is a mile long, and virtually none carried over in the later years.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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Lets face it, like it or not, C6 is just an reskinned C5! Process improvement is an ongoing development for GM, so, already had 7 years before C6 came on the market. Although new, even '12 model year has their share of problems seen posted here.

My Vette is mid '05 model, other then my proactive changed out with an ATI damper along with basic hot-rod 101 mods, just crossed 24k trouble free and entertaining miles!

Just like any cars, if proper care was provided along with sensible driving and you still have a lot of problems, you probably have an lemon!

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Its common sense to buy used:

1. Things worn with age, even under normal conditions, high mileage cars already accumulated their high mileage wears.

2. Low mileage cars could have suffered advance wear under various racing/ abuse/extreme mods and restored back to stock to catch the unsuspected buyer.

Good luck shopping!
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No way. But you'd probably have to have been on the forum since the get-go to appreciate it. The '05's had a lot of significant engineering defects and teething problems that the newer ones evolved out of. My own list is a mile long, and virtually none carried over in the later years.
You had a bunch....I've had none. This forum is not really a consensus of the 05 or Corvette community in general.
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You had a bunch....I've had none. This forum is not really a consensus of the 05 or Corvette community in general.
Whose missing?
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Whose missing?
The 90% not here?
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
No way. But you'd probably have to have been on the forum since the get-go to appreciate it. The '05's had a lot of significant engineering defects and teething problems that the newer ones evolved out of. My own list is a mile long, and virtually none carried over in the later years.
I had an 05 MN6. There were several reasons why I dumped it at 34k mi just before the warranty ran out.

The acronym DBS (dead battery syndrome) was due to the larger than normal number of electrical issues from the 05's. However there are those that have zero issues as well.
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Originally Posted by saplumr
The 90% not here?
Why aren't our 10% representative of the 90%?
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Why aren't our 10% representative of the 90%?
100% of our 10% is represented here.
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