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Old Aug 15, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Hi. I wanna pick someone's brain.

I bought another set of race tires and wheels for my 05 base and the orange TPMS relearning tool from the Tire Rack.

I put my race tires on the car and used the tool to relearn the TPMS on the race set. It worked great.

I finished racing and put my street set back on and tried to reset my TPMS on the street set and the tool did not even detect my sensor. It was working fine before I've put my race set. I was annoyed but started the car. I did not get any warning about the TPMS and it was reading fine.

The pressure was reading low so I put the air in the tire but the reading did not reflect the actual pressure that I checked with the pressure gauge!?

I drove about 15miles after I put my street set back on. Does the car remember more than one set of TPMS even if it was not on the car? Does it take several miles for the car to sync?

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Old Aug 15, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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interesting. Not sure if 05 and 06 are the same, I think they are. I have two sets of wheels and sensors and when I change them. Maybe your tack tire were to close to the car, so it assumed they were still on.

Just a guess.
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No, the track set was pretty far from the car. When I take the orange tool to the race tire, the tool give me a reading of the pressure and everything. However, on the street set, the tool doesn't detect.
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Old Aug 15, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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It's possible your sensors have been replaced along the way (their internal battery wears out at some point), but as far as I know, all of the Corvette sensors are compatible with each other. I have a mix of sensors on my 3 sets of wheels / tires, and they all work with my TPMS tool (OTC 003D-1). My tool is designed to sense what frequency the sensors are working at (usually 315 MHz) and then program them to the computer. Maybe your tool isn't compatible with different frequencies?

As far as getting warning alerts, it does usually take my car about 20 minutes of driving before it complains about unprogrammed sensors. So I'm sure yours will pop up soon. The computer does not "remember" older sets of sensors once you've reprogrammed a new set. If you put different wheels on without reprogramming, it may complain after 20 minutes, but will then resume working properly when you put the original wheels back on.
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Old Aug 15, 2014 | 03:09 PM
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Ohhh My tool is only capable of 05 to 09 so that's probably the reason why.

So good to be able to talk to the previous owner!
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Cub pro-101tool (and make sure that it fully charged),

2005 to 2009 Vet, use the corvette 2005 to 09 setting to trigger the TPMS.

2010 to 2013 vet, use the Chev HHR 2009 setting to trigger the TPMS.


So the question is if can you scan the tire TPMS with the tool (using the above setting for the car year) and get a full reading on the tool for the sensor scan per tire?
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Very interesting. So my tool did not detect 05-09 Corvette setting so it may work under Chev 2009?

Wonder even if the tool detects the sensor, can I make my car relearn... I will find out when I get home.
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Originally Posted by Takoyaki
Very interesting. So my tool did not detect 05-09 Corvette setting so it may work under Chev 2009?

Wonder even if the tool detects the sensor, can I make my car relearn... I will find out when I get home.
The Chevy HHR 2009 menu setting on the Cub tool will trigger/scan the TPMS for the new vets (2010 to 2013), but if the tool set to this setting does trigger/scans the TPMS in your tires, then you have bigger problems on your hands, since your 2005 Vet will not learn 2010 to 2013 TPMS's/they are the wrong TPMS in the tires for your car.

The TPMS have to be the right model for model year of the car. So 2005 to 2009 TPMS unit will work in these years cars, and the 2010 to 2013 tpms unist only work in those year cars.

As for if you can't get the TPMS's to scan in either menu setting, then bank that the battery is dead. If you can get them to scan in the correct menu mode for your year of car, then bank that the batteries in the TPMS are almost dead, and why the car can not pick them up during a relearn mode.

P.S, make sure that the car is in learn mod/has not timed out before you start triggering TPMS in the correct scan mode for the car to relearn them. IIRQ, you go about 1 mins to trigger the first front tire when the car is in learn mode before the system will time back out.

As for putting the car in learn mode, car off, open door, lay Fob next to shifter, hit bottom of starter button to put car in to ACC mode, hold lock and unlock buttons at the same time until the car honks/DIC reads learn mode (leave fob in car with the door open, now you have about a min to trigger the front driver until the car honks, trigger front passenger next until the car honks, trigger rear passenger until the horn honks, then finally the drivers rear tpms triggered, which the horn should honk twice to tell you relearn all four tires.
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If all four sensors are not detected by the car, it will wait for quite a while before notifying you. I changed tires once and got almost 20 miles down the highway before the system told me to check the TPMS system. The car is only capable of remembering one set of sensors and there is no auto-learning feature...you just didn't drive far enough or long enough to get the warning.

If you start the car and one tire is low, it will warn you almost immediately, it's just when it gets nothing from all four that it waits a while.

It's unlikely that all four batteries in your street sensors died at the same time. (understatement...LOL)

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Old Aug 16, 2014 | 03:18 PM
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So the previous owner of the car, c6hp4fun, was able to use his relearning tool to make it work. No issue at all.

My CUB tool is only good for 05-09 Vette and the sensors are not for 05-09. That might mean that the years of the sensor does not have to match the year of the sensor(?) as c6hp4fun stated above. The sensor I have is 10-13 and the car is 05. It could be aftermarket and CUB tool may not read(?)

My CUB tool did not detect the sensor as 09 Chevy HHR neither.

My car never threw a warning. Instead it gave me an accurate reading. It showed my front tires are at 48psi when the actual pressure was around 37psi. Weird.

I just need to get little more expensive sensor. Live and learn.
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Old Aug 16, 2014 | 03:27 PM
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I sure would like to hear Bob, BEZ06 comment on this....something seems wrong to me but I don't know what...
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Old Aug 16, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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Now I see, said the blind man,

You have aftermarket TPMS's and the after market TPMS are not triggering at the same protocols as the stock GM TPMS sensors (semi common). On some of the other auto sensing trigger tools, they just start sending out different protocol's to the TPMS to find the needed protocol to trigger them that way instead.


Unless something was changed on the car, the aftermarket TPMS should still be for the 2005 to 2009 year Vets for the RCDLR to recognize them , but they just are not accepting the stock GM protocol to trigger them.
Note, since you can use the either new or old style fob for all the C-6's, makes me wonder if the RCDLR went bad and a late model RCDLR was installed in it's place, or if the RCDLR was reprogramed for later sensors (note sure if that is possible), if the TPMS are for the late model C6's. This would explain why the 2010 to 2013 TPMS are working with the 2005 Vet. I mention this, since at some point the TPMS will need to be replaced, and you want to make sure that you are replacing them with the needed correct year TPMS (early or late model C6).





Also, Just for grins, try to go through the different setting and see if you can find a setting that will scan/trigger the TPMS's. You can do this without the car in learn mode, and may find a setting other than the 05-09 vett/ 2009 HHR setting that will trigger.scan them, hence saving you from having to buy another reset tool.
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