Post your Tire Specific 60' times here
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Post your Tire Specific 60' times here
I'm hoping to compile some information here specific to to tire. Let's hear what 60' times you guys have gotten out of a given rear tire. Please include your 60' time, tire make and model, and tire size. If you want to post things like air pressure, ET time/speed, track info etc. please feel free.
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It doesn't mean much when you don't want to know anything about the mods and power that those tires are on. Here's best 60's in order of tires purchased, with the first being bone stock and the rest with different mods, power levels, tracks, prep, and weather conditions.
1.99 GY RF
1.90 GY RF
1.85 Nitto Invos (1st set)
1.95 MT bias ply
1.85 MT DR
1.57 Hoosier DR (1st set)
1.74 Nitto Invos (2nd set)
1.99 Michelin SS
1.48 Hoosier DR (2nd set) --- 1.50 last night
1.84 Bridgestone S04
You certainly can't learn much from that list
1.99 GY RF
1.90 GY RF
1.85 Nitto Invos (1st set)
1.95 MT bias ply
1.85 MT DR
1.57 Hoosier DR (1st set)
1.74 Nitto Invos (2nd set)
1.99 Michelin SS
1.48 Hoosier DR (2nd set) --- 1.50 last night
1.84 Bridgestone S04
You certainly can't learn much from that list
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Listed in descending order of 60'. These are the best 60's achieved; however, some tires were not ran to their full potential.
Tires~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Size~~~~~~~~~~~ 60'
Goodyear Supercar~~~~~~ 295/35-18~~~~~~ 1.75
Hoosier DRs~~~~~~~~~~. 295/50R16~~~~~~ 1.67
MT ET Street DRs~~~~~~~ 305/35R19~~~~~~ 1.62
MT ET Street~~~~~~~~~. 26x11.50-17 LT~~~ 1.46
Hoosier DRs~~~~~~~~~~ 275/40R17~~~~~~ 1.46
Hoosier DRs~~~~~~~~~~ 255/50R16~~~~~~ 1.45
Hoosier DRs~~~~~~~~~~ 315/35R17~~~~~~ 1.44
MT ET Street~~~~~~~~~. 26x11.50-16 LT~~~ 1.40
Hoosier QTP~~~~~~~~~~ 28x11.50-16 LT~~~ 1.38
M&H Racemaster~~~~~~~ 12.0/26.0-16~~~~~ 1.35
Tires~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Size~~~~~~~~~~~ 60'
Goodyear Supercar~~~~~~ 295/35-18~~~~~~ 1.75
Hoosier DRs~~~~~~~~~~. 295/50R16~~~~~~ 1.67
MT ET Street DRs~~~~~~~ 305/35R19~~~~~~ 1.62
MT ET Street~~~~~~~~~. 26x11.50-17 LT~~~ 1.46
Hoosier DRs~~~~~~~~~~ 275/40R17~~~~~~ 1.46
Hoosier DRs~~~~~~~~~~ 255/50R16~~~~~~ 1.45
Hoosier DRs~~~~~~~~~~ 315/35R17~~~~~~ 1.44
MT ET Street~~~~~~~~~. 26x11.50-16 LT~~~ 1.40
Hoosier QTP~~~~~~~~~~ 28x11.50-16 LT~~~ 1.38
M&H Racemaster~~~~~~~ 12.0/26.0-16~~~~~ 1.35
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It doesn't mean much when you don't want to know anything about the mods and power that those tires are on. Here's best 60's in order of tires purchased, with the first being bone stock and the rest with different mods, power levels, tracks, prep, and weather conditions.
1.99 GY RF
1.90 GY RF
1.85 Nitto Invos (1st set)
1.95 MT bias ply
1.85 MT DR
1.57 Hoosier DR (1st set)
1.74 Nitto Invos (2nd set)
1.99 Michelin SS
1.48 Hoosier DR (2nd set) --- 1.50 last night
1.84 Bridgestone S04
You certainly can't learn much from that list
1.99 GY RF
1.90 GY RF
1.85 Nitto Invos (1st set)
1.95 MT bias ply
1.85 MT DR
1.57 Hoosier DR (1st set)
1.74 Nitto Invos (2nd set)
1.99 Michelin SS
1.48 Hoosier DR (2nd set) --- 1.50 last night
1.84 Bridgestone S04
You certainly can't learn much from that list
great data though man. Thanks for sharing.
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I have 275 40 17 M/T drag radials and have run a bunch of 1.4s with a best of 1.46.
Im sure they will do allot better but I have a stock motor and it just cant pull it any quicker. The tires never spin at all.
Im sure they will do allot better but I have a stock motor and it just cant pull it any quicker. The tires never spin at all.
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With the exception of the 1.99 with GY RF's when the car was bone stock and the DA on that pass was 786', all the rest were with mods.
The 1.74 Invos, 1.99 on Michelin, and 1.84 BS were times run in FL, OH, and IN while on road trips. The car had already run 10's with 60 foots in the 1.5's while on DR's. Those times were also the best pass on a slick track and not very great DA either.
Given enough practice on a prepped track in negative DA, I'd guess I could squeeze some 1.5's out of those OEM GY RF's. But no way could I do that with a stock converter, etc.
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Not unless you have similar mods/power and track conditions like I did at the time I got those times.
With the exception of the 1.99 with GY RF's when the car was bone stock and the DA on that pass was 786', all the rest were with mods.
The 1.74 Invos, 1.99 on Michelin, and 1.84 BS were times run in FL, OH, and IN while on road trips. The car had already run 10's with 60 foots in the 1.5's while on DR's. Those times were also the best pass on a slick track and not very great DA either.
Given enough practice on a prepped track in negative DA, I'd guess I could squeeze some 1.5's out of those OEM GY RF's. But no way could I do that with a stock converter, etc.
With the exception of the 1.99 with GY RF's when the car was bone stock and the DA on that pass was 786', all the rest were with mods.
The 1.74 Invos, 1.99 on Michelin, and 1.84 BS were times run in FL, OH, and IN while on road trips. The car had already run 10's with 60 foots in the 1.5's while on DR's. Those times were also the best pass on a slick track and not very great DA either.
Given enough practice on a prepped track in negative DA, I'd guess I could squeeze some 1.5's out of those OEM GY RF's. But no way could I do that with a stock converter, etc.
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What you won't find anywhere is a list of 60' times for bone stock cars driven by top drivers in great conditions and running various other street tires.
Once the cars or conditions are not equal, tire comparisons are useless.
Ask yourself how much did it help you to learn about a particular tire when camaro75racer (headers, CAI, tune, 100 shot NO2, and 1200'DA) compared his 305 Hankooks to my (headers, CAI, tune, converter, and 2600'DA) with 285 Michelin SS RF's?
If you really want to find the best forward traction in a street tire, then pick the tire size you intend to run and compare brands for area and shape of the footprint and the durometer of the compound.
Once the cars or conditions are not equal, tire comparisons are useless.
Ask yourself how much did it help you to learn about a particular tire when camaro75racer (headers, CAI, tune, 100 shot NO2, and 1200'DA) compared his 305 Hankooks to my (headers, CAI, tune, converter, and 2600'DA) with 285 Michelin SS RF's?
If you really want to find the best forward traction in a street tire, then pick the tire size you intend to run and compare brands for area and shape of the footprint and the durometer of the compound.
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What you won't find anywhere is a list of 60' times for bone stock cars driven by top drivers in great conditions and running various other street tires.
Once the cars or conditions are not equal, tire comparisons are useless.
Ask yourself how much did it help you to learn about a particular tire when camaro75racer (headers, CAI, tune, 100 shot NO2, and 1200'DA) compared his 305 Hankooks to my (headers, CAI, tune, converter, and 2600'DA) with 285 Michelin SS RF's?
If you really want to find the best forward traction in a street tire, then pick the tire size you intend to run and compare brands for area and shape of the footprint and the durometer of the compound.
Once the cars or conditions are not equal, tire comparisons are useless.
Ask yourself how much did it help you to learn about a particular tire when camaro75racer (headers, CAI, tune, 100 shot NO2, and 1200'DA) compared his 305 Hankooks to my (headers, CAI, tune, converter, and 2600'DA) with 285 Michelin SS RF's?
If you really want to find the best forward traction in a street tire, then pick the tire size you intend to run and compare brands for area and shape of the footprint and the durometer of the compound.
I do realize there are lots of variables, but given a similar weight vette and tire compound, you can only squeeze so much traction out of a tire off the line. For most tires, if you take a 300whp stock ls1 vs. a 600whp SC'd vette, you aren't going to be able to use the full extent of either in the first 60'. I realize you hate my thread, and I'm sorry about that, but I'm just trying to get a feel for what limits are for different types of tire.
I'm never getting a 1.5x out of a street tire no matter how much horsepower I have, or how well the track is prepped.
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Here is a killer 60 foot time. https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...4-60-foot.html
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I do realize there are lots of variables, but given a similar weight vette and tire compound, you can only squeeze so much traction out of a tire off the line. For most tires, if you take a 300whp stock ls1 vs. a 600whp SC'd vette, you aren't going to be able to use the full extent of either in the first 60'. I realize you hate my thread, and I'm sorry about that, but I'm just trying to get a feel for what limits are for different types of tire.
I'm never getting a 1.5x out of a street tire no matter how much horsepower I have, or how well the track is prepped.
I'm never getting a 1.5x out of a street tire no matter how much horsepower I have, or how well the track is prepped.
It's no different than asking what brand of shoes are most comfortable. The 350# 60 yo guy who can barely stand on concrete for 30 minutes won't have the same answer as the 130# 20 yo who stands on plush carpet for 10 hours.
Compare this: camaro75racer's 1.674 60' and 10.71 @ 128 on 305 Hankooks with nitrous that he dead hooks off the line.
I'd post the slip, but it's too faded (thermal printed in 2011) to scan, but here are the numbers: 1.758 60' and 11.45 @ 123 on 285 Invos with a 3600 stall that I babied just to keep spinning at a minimum.
He had me by 100 hp overall (softened off the line for both of us), but less than .10 seconds difference. Now based only on the 60' time, would you tend to buy 305 Hankooks since they were quicker? What if I dead hooked on a well prepped track and matched his 1.674 60', but still only a 11.45 @ 123, would you buy 285 Invos or stick with the Hankooks?
Assuming a well prepped track, great DA, a capable car, and enough practice, yes you could get a 1.5x 60' on street tires. I'm guessing you haven't been at this very long. It takes a while to learn.
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Not hating your thread. Just trying to help you understand that your question is asking for an answer that has far more variables involved that won't necessarily fit your application.
It's no different than asking what brand of shoes are most comfortable. The 350# 60 yo guy who can barely stand on concrete for 30 minutes won't have the same answer as the 130# 20 yo who stands on plush carpet for 10 hours.
Compare this: camaro75racer's 1.674 60' and 10.71 @ 128 on 305 Hankooks with nitrous that he dead hooks off the line.
I'd post the slip, but it's too faded (thermal printed in 2011) to scan, but here are the numbers: 1.758 60' and 11.45 @ 123 on 285 Invos with a 3600 stall that I babied just to keep spinning at a minimum.
He had me by 100 hp overall (softened off the line for both of us), but less than .10 seconds difference. Now based only on the 60' time, would you tend to buy 305 Hankooks since they were quicker? What if I dead hooked on a well prepped track and matched his 1.674 60', but still only a 11.45 @ 123, would you buy 285 Invos or stick with the Hankooks?
Assuming a well prepped track, great DA, a capable car, and enough practice, yes you could get a 1.5x 60' on street tires. I'm guessing you haven't been at this very long. It takes a while to learn.
It's no different than asking what brand of shoes are most comfortable. The 350# 60 yo guy who can barely stand on concrete for 30 minutes won't have the same answer as the 130# 20 yo who stands on plush carpet for 10 hours.
Compare this: camaro75racer's 1.674 60' and 10.71 @ 128 on 305 Hankooks with nitrous that he dead hooks off the line.
I'd post the slip, but it's too faded (thermal printed in 2011) to scan, but here are the numbers: 1.758 60' and 11.45 @ 123 on 285 Invos with a 3600 stall that I babied just to keep spinning at a minimum.
He had me by 100 hp overall (softened off the line for both of us), but less than .10 seconds difference. Now based only on the 60' time, would you tend to buy 305 Hankooks since they were quicker? What if I dead hooked on a well prepped track and matched his 1.674 60', but still only a 11.45 @ 123, would you buy 285 Invos or stick with the Hankooks?
Assuming a well prepped track, great DA, a capable car, and enough practice, yes you could get a 1.5x 60' on street tires. I'm guessing you haven't been at this very long. It takes a while to learn.
I've "dabbled" since 06, but I'm affraid to go full in with drag racing, because, as we all know, you start breaking **** real quick. I raced a guy in a mid 2000's ls1 camaro on continental street tires and he pulled a 1.8 on me, so I know that it's possible to get well into 1.x's. I really just want to see what the upper end of the limit is on street tires. Part of me also wants to convince myself that I could run mid 11's on a street tire with a good launch. I think it's possible, but not likely for me, given that I'm not willing to put the car through enough passes to "practice". I will probably just buy a drag pack off the forum, run it a a few times at rockingham till I get something in mid-upper 11's and then call it a day. I'm not the bragging rights guy, but I DO want to be able to say that I have a coupe that will run 11's.
Thanks again, for the information you provided. Even though you insist it's not very useful, it is what I wanted to see.