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Old 02-27-2017, 10:53 PM
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Default Going ATI, underdrive or not?

Going to get an ATI pulley. Is it worth getting their 10% UD or just sticking with the normal one?
Old 02-28-2017, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by badazz81z28
Going to get an ATI pulley. Is it worth getting their 10% UD or just sticking with the normal one?
Personlly I stuck with their standard drive when I replaced my balancer.
Old 02-28-2017, 08:29 AM
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I had no issues with the 10%UD on my heads/cam C5Z. I'll put one on the LS2 in my C6 when the time comes to replace it.
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I had no issues with the 10%UD on my heads/cam C5Z. I'll put one on the LS2 in my C6 when the time comes to replace it.
Not a good idea many problems with a UD and a LS2
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No UD.
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It's gonna be for an ls7
Old 02-28-2017, 03:22 PM
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There's no reason not to go with an underdrive from ati. I ran the 10% on my old fbody and now my c6z. No problems in almost 7 years of combined use. Idle speed is not an issue and the small UD wont cause any damping issues
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Originally Posted by CMY SIX
Not a good idea many problems with a UD and a LS2
ATI? Got any links? There are plenty of stories of timing chain issues with other lesser brands of underdrive dampers but the ATI is considered the gold standard.
Old 03-02-2017, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by redbird555
There's no reason not to go with an underdrive from ati. I ran the 10% on my old fbody and now my c6z. No problems in almost 7 years of combined use. Idle speed is not an issue and the small UD wont cause any damping issues
While ATI makes quality dampers, even they say that their UD versions DO NOT dampen crankshaft harmonics as well as the full sized ones do. I've also found that at low engine RPM, the water pump isn't being turned fast enough with an UD damper. It isn't enough to cause an issue, but the coolant temps will run a few degrees higher under certain circumstances.
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I have had an UDP for 7 years with a stock water ump. No issues at all but even if there were you could easily bump the idle a hundred rpm. These cars honestly idle too low anyway. I seriously doubt it would even be enough to notice. Weather changes probably make more of a difference.

Also I have talked with Scott many times at ATI buying different pulleys from them and we discussed this. The 10% dampens fine but anything smaller they feel does not which is why you don't see many 25% models offered, they do make them for some cars but are not recommended for that reason. The 10 is fine for whatever you want to throw at it though
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What is the purpose of a UDP?
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Frees up engine output power by reducing the speed of the accessories
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Originally Posted by MyLS1Hauls
While ATI makes quality dampers, even they say that their UD versions DO NOT dampen crankshaft harmonics as well as the full sized ones do. I've also found that at low engine RPM, the water pump isn't being turned fast enough with an UD damper. It isn't enough to cause an issue, but the coolant temps will run a few degrees higher under certain circumstances.
That can be said about any pulley. Of course the smaller you go the lesser job it does. But on the same token a 10% ATI sure does a better job then oem
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Originally Posted by badazz81z28
That can be said about any pulley. Of course the smaller you go the lesser job it does. But on the same token a 10% ATI sure does a better job then oem
So if you already have all of the answers, why did you ask for the forum's opinion?
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He didn't ask if it would dampen better.... he asked if it's worth getting the UDP or rather there's an actual gain. Pretty sure he knew the theory of an UDP before he asked though. In that sentiment you won't won't find many results of someone dunking right after only swapping a pulley. But IMO it's the little mods like that which add up to make a car run better than the rest
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How much hp would be gained with a UDP? I'm getting a cam installed and the installer recommended the 10% UDP while he was in their.
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5-10whp is a common gain


http://www.superchevy.com/features/g...ient-power-up/

This article done on a 5g camaro is a pretty rock solid comparison. Boltingon a meziere EWP and 10% ATI pulley they gained 18whp. Both mods commonly claim 5-10whp so it's pretty accurate
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If your current balancer is good and a racing association doesn't require it, there is no other reason to change it unless you're wanting to squeeze every last HP from the engine.
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I'm just torn...

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