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Old 08-17-2017, 11:38 AM
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Default LS2/3/7 CAM SWAP, no other mod will net 40-60hp gains for <$2000.

Not requiring a bottle fill.....

If you want the most hp per dollar.

CAM SWAP.

About $7-900 with springs and gaskets.
Old 08-17-2017, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveDoten
Not requiring a bottle fill.....

If you want the most hp per dollar.

CAM SWAP.

About $7-900 with springs and gaskets.
your right it took just under the $2,000. mark to pick up 65rwhp with ported Fast 102 and OBX catted headers on my LS2
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Might have a little trouble getting that much more out of a ls7 though.
Old 08-18-2017, 01:32 AM
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I went from 330hp to 390 at the wheels with a full catless exhaust. Texas Speed long tubes, catless x pipe and a Blackheart cat back setup, was on sale. All 3 inch, cost be just under $1500. Picked up a used CAI, a K&N Carbon unit for $150. Pretty happy with these gains, on an LS2 with 100kmi. She runs good. Might do a cam swap next year but may wait because I would really like to boost it. we will see...
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You're right on this. And for those who can do the work themselves, it's a no brainer. These motors are dying for more cam.
My cam swap cost me a lot less than $2,000.00, not counting the skinned knuckles and all the fun with the steering rack. I even discovered a better technique for removal of the rack along the way: by shoving it over to the right side and then pulling it out the top of the engine compartment over the left front fender.
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Originally Posted by crazyorigin
I went from 330hp to 390 at the wheels with a full catless exhaust. Texas Speed long tubes, catless x pipe and a Blackheart cat back setup, was on sale. All 3 inch, cost be just under $1500. Picked up a used CAI, a K&N Carbon unit for $150. Pretty happy with these gains, on an LS2 with 100kmi. She runs good. Might do a cam swap next year but may wait because I would really like to boost it. we will see...
dyno trickery. aint no way exhaust is gonna add 60 hp
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Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS
dyno trickery. aint no way exhaust is gonna add 60 hp
Hahaha...yup. When I got my first tune after I installed my ARH headers they showed me the mustang dyno graph at 450hp...right
I never went back to them...it's all street tune now from a better tuner.
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Originally Posted by Curt D
Hahaha...yup. When I got my first tune after I installed my ARH headers they showed me the mustang dyno graph at 450hp...right
I never went back to them...it's all street tune now from a better tuner.
450 hp to the fly wheel sounds right.
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Originally Posted by STANG KILLA SS
dyno trickery. aint no way exhaust is gonna add 60 hp
The tuner is very reputable and good at what he does. I saw the dyno chart from first run to the last. It's no trickery and his dyno is modest compared to others in the area. The exhaust install was just done by me the day before and not tuned already, I am not saying he picked up 60hp over another person's tune, the car was not running right due to the mods so it exaggerated the base pull numbers vs final pull. 390hp is not a number out of the ordinary for my setup, it is pretty much exactly what I expected.

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Forgive me for my n00b question.

I am getting my HB replaced soon, would it be beneficial cost wise to have a Cam installed at this time?

Also, what else would I need, my car is a full exhaust car, so I'm assuming possibly an air intake or manifold (is it possible to do this later?) and the cam/spring package (suggestions?) + tune?

Just trying to make sure I have everything bought when I drop my car off and if doing the Cam now would save me any money from doing it in the future since they're doing the HB already.
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Originally Posted by Mr.C5
Forgive me for my n00b question.

I am getting my HB replaced soon, would it be beneficial cost wise to have a Cam installed at this time?

Also, what else would I need, my car is a full exhaust car, so I'm assuming possibly an air intake or manifold (is it possible to do this later?) and the cam/spring package (suggestions?) + tune?

Just trying to make sure I have everything bought when I drop my car off and if doing the Cam now would save me any money from doing it in the future since they're doing the HB already.
Another 2-3 hours to swap cam and springs.

Who's doing the work.
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Originally Posted by SteveDoten
Another 2-3 hours to swap cam and springs.

Who's doing the work.
do you have a cam installed in your vette? specs?
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Originally Posted by Mr.C5
Forgive me for my n00b question.

I am getting my HB replaced soon, would it be beneficial cost wise to have a Cam installed at this time?

Also, what else would I need, my car is a full exhaust car, so I'm assuming possibly an air intake or manifold (is it possible to do this later?) and the cam/spring package (suggestions?) + tune?

Just trying to make sure I have everything bought when I drop my car off and if doing the Cam now would save me any money from doing it in the future since they're doing the HB already.
Now is absolutely the time to do it. They have to pull your harmonic balancer to get to the cam. So you're saving significantly in the double labor. Example: my shop charges $500 labor to do the HB. Instead I did a cam which includes the HB swap for $650 labor.

You don't need an intake or manifold, though they certainly don't hurt. Most of the cam kits should come with everything you need as far as installation, including gaskets. Then you just need fluids and the harmonic balanver/belts. Oil, coolant, and power steering fluid. I ordered the stage 2 from BTR and I'm very happy.
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Originally Posted by SteveDoten
Not requiring a bottle fill.....

If you want the most hp per dollar.

CAM SWAP.

About $7-900 with springs and gaskets.
You are so rite and don't add weight or back fire danger nor additional parts to go bad for extra service like solenoids hoses and leaks.

It also allows the flexibility of larger additional gains by doing head work and milling of course at that point you want l/t headers in the mix.
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Originally Posted by SteveDoten
Not requiring a bottle fill.....

If you want the most hp per dollar.

CAM SWAP.

About $7-900 with springs and gaskets.
You are so rite and don't add weight or back fire danger nor additional parts to go bad for extra service like solenoids hoses and leaks.

It also allows the flexibility of larger additional gains by doing head work and milling of course at that point you want l/t headers in the mix.
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All these guys doing cams and more and not going to the better timing chains ?
The thread says cam only. 40-60 rwhp. I bet a 3600 stall would get you more at the track, roll racing and red lights than the 40rwhp at 6400-6500 rpm all day long for 1/4 to1/2 of the price in a A6 car. Then add the balance of the cash to tsp headers or a used fast and a $150 mail tune. There's your 60 easy.
There's a guy on ls1 tech with a full weight f-body ls1 m5 car that ran just once and got an 11.3 with only bolton's. That would be possible mid 10's or lower in the lighter Corvettes. You should all know the ls3 c6 cam is the ls6 Z06 cam which would push the heavy f-bod into the high 10's Also most larger cams have there drivability and gas mileage downsides that bolton's don't.

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