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Fog Light Removal along with Cut Shroud for more air?
Has anyone removed their fog lights in conjunction with a cut open shroud to gain more fresh air?
I had my passenger fog light fall out yesterday or just backed out of its bumper area ... I didn't realize this until I got home while out on a drive but the car was pulling harder than ever!!
I have since fixed it and now the feel and power doesn't feel the same.. back to as it was before...
Cutting open the shroud made a HUGE difference back when I did it and now this added opening has created an even more stronger feel to the car...
That was just the passenger side that had backed out... not even fully removed...
I was wondering if anyone else has had experience with removing both sides and it's impact...
I have a BTR-4 cammed car so anymore air I can feed it the better...
Probably best to get a true ram air cai. I replaced my fog bulbs with some ultra bright bulbs from a vender on here and they light up the road like you wouldn't believe.
The foglight openings from removing the fog lights actually don't get a lot of air passing through them. The foglights are wrapped to the side of the car far enough the air is just moving around that section.
Fog lights are a low pressure area and get little to no air-flow into them. Sorry to burst your bubble. You'd need to modify the openings with some form of air-redirecting "catcher" in order for them to be effective at creating positive pressure (see photo), or find a way to create negative pressure behind the inlets themselves in order to suck air in.
Katech deals in TIkT parts, so call them if you really want to increase airflow w/their goodies.
I need to pull my fog light housings for another purpose. I can't find a good write up. Did you have a guide you used?
You should just be able to unbolt a few things underneath and reach your arm up in there. If you need to remove them completely, it is much easier to just remove the entire bumper to provide for a better workspace. This guide provided by A&A is helpful.
Fog lights are a low pressure area and get little to no air-flow into them. Sorry to burst your bubble. You'd need to modify the openings with some form of air-redirecting "catcher" in order for them to be effective at creating positive pressure (see photo), or find a way to create negative pressure behind the inlets themselves in order to suck air in.
Katech deals in TIkT parts, so call them if you really want to increase airflow w/their goodies.
I beg to differ... appreciate the feedback... However, the amount of fresh air gained by removing the fogs is substantial...
It leaned out my current tune and more fuel was added for quite the butt dyno improvement..
Removal is easy 16 total fasteners & small bolts
What CAI are you running? Leak in the CAI system somewhere maybe? What little air is coming in through those fog light openings...I just don't see that being diverted up and over to the air intake. Opening the shroud area...yes. That's a high pressure area. Fogs...not so much.
Not only is there very little airflow through the fog light openings but with the fender liners and such there is no easy and direct way for the air that is let in to get to the area where the air filter is.
Not only is there very little airflow through the fog light openings but with the fender liners and such there is no easy and direct way for the air that is let in to get to the area where the air filter is.
it's not about forced air... It's about more fresh air..
You will notice the straight shot down to the radiator area where the car picks up its air...
I think it's a different story because I have my shroud cut in a rectangle opening up the filter to the ground pretty much...
Stock shroud un-cut I can see where you are coming from...
If somehow the removal of the fog lights have somehow increased the consumption of fresh air by the engine, especially if you have modified the radiator shroud as well to give a path for additional fresh air to enter into the air filter plenum area over stock, something else is wrong. If you have HP Tuners, it would be a fairly simple test for you to monitor the MAP signal with both the fog lights installed and removed, to see what your manifold pressure readings are. If you see a vacuum in the CAI with the fog lights installed, then remove the fogs and you see a decrease in vacuum (or a positive reading), then you've got something to work with.
REmoving the fog lights, while located in a low pressure zone of the front end, is going to increase the underhood air pressure causing lift on the front end of your car, as the trapped air has no place to exhaust from.
You should just be able to unbolt a few things underneath and reach your arm up in there. If you need to remove them completely, it is much easier to just remove the entire bumper to provide for a better workspace. This guide provided by A&A is helpful.
10-15-2017, 04:29 PM
Fog Light Removal along with Cut Shroud for more air?
