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Old 12-29-2017, 10:42 PM
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Doing a mantic 9000 twin disc clutch...
-do I need to get new flywheel bolts?
-red or blue loctite on flywheel bolts? On clutch bolts?
-what to clean surfaces with?
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Old 12-29-2017, 11:34 PM
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I went with new flywheel bolts and red loctite. I put a small amount of blue loctite on the clutch/pressure plate bolts for my own piece of mind. I'd make an effort not to get anything oily or greasy, particularly in regards to the the disks.
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Originally Posted by Turbo2L
I went with new flywheel bolts and red loctite. I put a small amount of blue loctite on the clutch/pressure plate bolts for my own piece of mind. I'd make an effort not to get anything oily or greasy, particularly in regards to the the disks.
Says to clean surfaces with a acetone based product that leave NO residue
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i would use brake cleaner
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Originally Posted by russ472
i would use brake cleaner
I was told lacquer thinner also.....?
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Brake cleaner
My mantics always came with new flywheel bolts. Not sure if that changed. The new ones have thread locker on them already.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Brake cleaner
My mantics always came with new flywheel bolts. Not sure if that changed. The new ones have thread locker on them already.
Damn....not sure how I missed those bolts....lol! Thanks as ALWAYS for your help
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Bolts have thread sealer on them....need any additional sealer?
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About 1 1/2 years ago I bought the Mantic 9000 twin disc and it came with everything: Flywheel, bolts, discs, pressure plate, align tool and GM slave cylinder. The bolts already had the thread locker.

Pick up some brake cleaner, pilot bushing and a remote bleeder and you should be good to go.

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No additional sealer needed. Just use what it comes with.
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Got bleeder already....time to put this PITA back together
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Any tricks to removing the pilot bearing?
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Originally Posted by C U IN REARVEIW
Any tricks to removing the pilot bearing?
You can rent the tool + slide hammer from Autozone. I usually have to grind a bit on the tool to get it to fit in the ID of the bearing.
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Originally Posted by Tech
You can rent the tool + slide hammer from Autozone. I usually have to grind a bit on the tool to get it to fit in the ID of the bearing.
I had to do the same....but got it out finally!
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Best trick is to get four 3-4 inch long bolts same thread size as the torque tube to bellhousing bolts. Don't recall what size but cheap hardware store type work fine. Cut off heads and screw bolts into bell housing. The torque tube will then align perfectly when putting it back together. Otherwise the slightest misalignment could ruin the clutch discs as you try getting the spline shaft to slide into the discs.
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The last time I did a clutch, I disassembled the torque tube. Its just one large c-clip on the back. Then install the slave, measure for shims, shim (if needed), then install the slave+torque tube housing onto the bellhousing. Slide the prop shaft in from the back and reinstall the snap ring. It’s light and easy to maneuver.
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Originally Posted by 548chevelle
Best trick is to get four 3-4 inch long bolts same thread size as the torque tube to bellhousing bolts. Don't recall what size but cheap hardware store type work fine. Cut off heads and screw bolts into bell housing. The torque tube will then align perfectly when putting it back together. Otherwise the slightest misalignment could ruin the clutch discs as you try getting the spline shaft to slide into the discs.
Even if you use alignment tool for clutch plates?

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Originally Posted by C U IN REARVEIW
Even if you use alignment tool for clutch plates?
Yes. The plastic alignment tools take some practice and a little luck to get perfect. Mine don’t fit as tightly as the end of the prop shaft.
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Yes. The plastic alignment tools take some practice and a little luck to get perfect. Mine don’t fit as tightly as the end of the prop shaft.
If they dont line up correctly, would the shaft just not slide in?
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Originally Posted by C U IN REARVEIW
If they dont line up correctly, would the shaft just not slide in?
Multi-disk clutches are a little trickier. Sometimes it’ll seem like the prop shaft is in far enough that it should slide in the rest of the way but it doesn’t easily. If you force it when it is not perfect, you can damage the disk. IDK if the stud trick will work as well as my method, but if you do it my way, it’s nearly impossible to screw it up.


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