BTR Cam choice for an LS2
11-14-2018, 03:33 PM
#23
Thanks.
So why the change from the BTR II OR III?
So why the change from the BTR II OR III?
I did my build over the winter last year and was in the same boat as you. 2006 6 speed base and was unsure if I'd keep the car or sell it and move on. I was stuck between the BTR stage 2 and stage 3 but ultimately I ended up with the comp cam xer273hr. Couldn't be happier. I got the whole cam package from BTR. I've done my tuning via datalogging using the intune i2 with Diablew. It's much louder than yours will be as it's long tubes with Billy boat bullets and will never attract a purist if I sell it but I love it. I vote for going big and not restricting yourself on what a potential buyer may or may not want if you ever decide to part with it.
11-14-2018, 03:39 PM
#24
Cant give you any personal experience but I’ve done a lot of research as my next project is a cam. After going through everything I’m personally going with the btr Stage 2. Also going to upgrade all the valve springs, pushrods, and trunions. Also replacing the harmonic balancer, belts, and debating on slapping a new water pump as long as I’m in there. I’m also going to swap the intake for a fast 102.
I already have headers, cai, and exhaust. 2006 Base model.
Reason on I chimed in is my goals are similar to yours and I think the Stage 2 is where I want to be. To be honest just having the CAI, Kook header, x-pipe, Corsa extremes, the sound is already pretty amazing. I get a lot of compliments on the sound, so realistically I don’t think I need a cam just for the sound (if that’s one of your goals).
So when we say for sound only...some of it is yes, for sound. Not for the db level but for the rumpty thump sound of a cam that gives me wood! Some of course is for more power. Again though, I would like more low to mid power if possible.
Yes, similar plans.
Thanks.
Last edited by C6 Monterey; 11-14-2018 at 03:40 PM.
11-14-2018, 03:47 PM
#25
Instructor
The 3" Z06 Dual Mode system sounds awesome in the open position. I don't have the vacuum set up yet so I can't speak for the closed. I can tell you that I like the sound in the open position enough I can't see them being closed often. I still am going to get the NPP in a box though.
So when we say for sound only...some of it is yes, for sound. Not for the db level but for the rumpty thump sound of a cam that gives me wood! Some of course is for more power. Again though, I would like more low to mid power if possible.
Yes, similar plans.
Thanks.
So when we say for sound only...some of it is yes, for sound. Not for the db level but for the rumpty thump sound of a cam that gives me wood! Some of course is for more power. Again though, I would like more low to mid power if possible.
Yes, similar plans.
Thanks.
11-14-2018, 04:05 PM
#27
11-15-2018, 05:08 PM
#28
I have narrowed it down to these cams. You more seasoned guys....which would you do and why?
Cam Motion Titan 4 LS1/2 Camshaft (227/232 .612"/.595" 113+4)
BTR LS1/2 Stage II Cam (227/234 .614"/.576" 113+2)
Patrick G (226/232 .600"/.600" 113LSA +2)
Patrick G (227/232 .629"/.615" 113LSA +2) using his custom Texas Speed lobes – a more current version of the above. He says it compares favorably with the BTR2 cam, except his lobes are a little more aggressive with more lift.
Thanks!!
Cam Motion Titan 4 LS1/2 Camshaft (227/232 .612"/.595" 113+4)
BTR LS1/2 Stage II Cam (227/234 .614"/.576" 113+2)
Patrick G (226/232 .600"/.600" 113LSA +2)
Patrick G (227/232 .629"/.615" 113LSA +2) using his custom Texas Speed lobes – a more current version of the above. He says it compares favorably with the BTR2 cam, except his lobes are a little more aggressive with more lift.
Thanks!!
Last edited by C6 Monterey; 02-12-2019 at 12:21 AM.
11-15-2018, 05:13 PM
#29
Instructor
I have narrowed it down to these cams. You more seasoned guys....which would you do and why?
Cam Motion Titan 4 LS1/2 Camshaft (227/232-113+4)
BTR LS1/2 Stage II Cam (227/234 .614"/.576" 113+2)
Patrick G (226/232 .600"/.600" 113LSA +2)
Patrick G (227/232 .629"/.615" 113LSA +2) using his custom Texas Speed lobes – a more current version of the above. He says it compares favorably with the BTR2 cam, except his lobes are a little more aggressive with more lift.
Thanks!!
Cam Motion Titan 4 LS1/2 Camshaft (227/232-113+4)
BTR LS1/2 Stage II Cam (227/234 .614"/.576" 113+2)
Patrick G (226/232 .600"/.600" 113LSA +2)
Patrick G (227/232 .629"/.615" 113LSA +2) using his custom Texas Speed lobes – a more current version of the above. He says it compares favorably with the BTR2 cam, except his lobes are a little more aggressive with more lift.
Thanks!!
Last edited by Prewoz; 11-15-2018 at 05:17 PM.
11-15-2018, 05:25 PM
#30
11-15-2018, 07:09 PM
#31
Team Owner
Nothing wrong with BTR cams, they are a fantastic off the shelf option. Having said that; I'd go custom, just because that's me...and I wouldn't hesitate to go with Pat G or Cam Motion. Cam Motion has their 8620 cores and LS friendly lobe designs that would be important factors in my decision making process.
11-15-2018, 09:43 PM
#32
Burning Brakes
I have narrowed it down to these cams. You more seasoned guys....which would you do and why?
Cam Motion Titan 4 LS1/2 Camshaft (227/232-113+4)
BTR LS1/2 Stage II Cam (227/234 .614"/.576" 113+2)
Patrick G (226/232 .600"/.600" 113LSA +2)
Patrick G (227/232 .629"/.615" 113LSA +2) using his custom Texas Speed lobes – a more current version of the above. He says it compares favorably with the BTR2 cam, except his lobes are a little more aggressive with more lift.
Thanks!!
Cam Motion Titan 4 LS1/2 Camshaft (227/232-113+4)
BTR LS1/2 Stage II Cam (227/234 .614"/.576" 113+2)
Patrick G (226/232 .600"/.600" 113LSA +2)
Patrick G (227/232 .629"/.615" 113LSA +2) using his custom Texas Speed lobes – a more current version of the above. He says it compares favorably with the BTR2 cam, except his lobes are a little more aggressive with more lift.
Thanks!!
11-18-2018, 11:39 PM
#33
With the BTR being more valvetrain friendly I would do the BTR Stage 2. Now I will say this but this is my opinion if you are going to get the heads ported or miller done later or if you think you may go that route then if I was you I would go with the BTR stage 3. But since you want more low end to mid range power the BTR 2 would be your best bet over the BTR stage 3. I know that wasn't your option but just saying!!! LoL
I can guarantee that I will not be doing heads. MAYBE an intake. I think I have stroked the Stage III off the list.
What do you mean that the BTR is more "valvetrain friendly"?
11-18-2018, 11:42 PM
#34
Nothing wrong with BTR cams, they are a fantastic off the shelf option. Having said that; I'd go custom, just because that's me...and I wouldn't hesitate to go with Pat G or Cam Motion. Cam Motion has their 8620 cores and LS friendly lobe designs that would be important factors in my decision making process.
11-18-2018, 11:50 PM
#35
It's not overly complicated if the one doing your tune knows what they are doing. Ask your guy if they are going to do a full hybrid tune or just a SD only. PatG will spec you a cam and he usually uses TSP or CamMotion for the cams. And PatG can work with you remotely on your tune, as well. You won't find a better tuner. To take full advantage of a cam, you should increase the flows of your heads; lots of room for improvement on LS2 heads. New cam I would also suggest new lifters; Morel 6504's over GM LS7 and Johson 2110's SLR's if you can afford the extra price.
He uses HP Tuners and the MAF is used. Not Just the MAP.
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Last edited by C6 Monterey; 11-19-2018 at 12:06 AM.
11-19-2018, 12:28 PM
#36
Team Owner