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Old 06-10-2019, 01:06 PM
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Default Race Proven Motorsports LS3 cam Results

About a month ago I took my 2008 base C6 back over to Race Proven Motorsports to have their LS3 cam package installed. After speaking with Bill and talking about the goals I am looking to achieve (looking to add boost next summer), we decided to go with RPM's 227/235 with a 113LSA cam.
The car put down great power and torque, plus it drives just like stock under normal driving conditions. She made 491WHP and 460WTQ. Needless to say I am more then happy with the results of the car! I was very impressed with how well the little LS3 reacted to the cam and the supporting mods. While driving it home, all I could do was smile.

Big shout out to Race Proven Motorsports too. They have worked on my car twice now and I would highly recommend them. Their customer service and craftsmanship are outstanding!

Enjoying the car now and looking forward to throwing some boost at it next summer!

Thanks for checking this out guys!
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Congrats, Excellent results, I believe that cam is right in the sweet spot for a daily drivable LS3.
AFR LS3 Heads & FAST W/ Mid -Length Runners would be my choice over a blower for a nice
40 RWHP bump at a little loss of low end.
Enjoy!
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Old 06-10-2019, 04:22 PM
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Great numbers! Any chance you can post some speedo pulls?

Thanks!
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what was the pull before the cam? meaningless without a base pull, even so # seems to be high
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Old 06-10-2019, 07:07 PM
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Should have stated that the Car made 442whp and 444wtq before cam. Numbers above are after. Here is a link to the baseline numbers as well. https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...o-numbers.html
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wow impressive #s do you have a stall in it? if not do you get any push thru on your brakes at idle?
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6.2L engine = “little LS3”... LOL!!

Great numbers and congrats!!
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Originally Posted by Omega Doom
wow impressive #s do you have a stall in it? if not do you get any push thru on your brakes at idle?
Sorry, I left out that the car is a M6. But it is still on the stock clutch that has 78K on it. So I'm sure a new clutch is definitely in the future soon!

Thanks man!
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Appreciate the feedback! Glad you are enjoying the car!
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Originally Posted by Mfalk21
Should have stated that the Car made 442whp and 444wtq before cam. Numbers above are after. Here is a link to the baseline numbers as well. https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...o-numbers.html
Mfalk21, PM sent.
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Good results however, that camshaft would have performed better if it was a 227/240 113 LSA.
With a 3 degree earlier Evo you would have made 500rwhp with the power and torque holding on longer in the top end.
Low end would still be the same
Ls3 perform better with a wider split with the same valve events.
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Good results however, that camshaft would have performed better if it was a 227/240 113 LSA.
With a 3 degree earlier Evo you would have made 500rwhp with the power and torque holding on longer in the top end.
Low end would still be the same
Ls3 perform better with a wider split with the same valve events.
Be mindful that some folks aren't after the last HP Another 3 degrees duration on the exhaust side, while possibly can get you a few more HP, also gets you another 1.5 degrees of overlap. Some, including me, like to make good power and keep good manners. Overlap matters. While you may argue that 10.5 degrees of overlap is child's play, I'll argue that it's too much for a street car. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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I'd take RPM's cam spec advice as well. 😇
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Originally Posted by old motorhead
Be mindful that some folks aren't after the last HP Another 3 degrees duration on the exhaust side, while possibly can get you a few more HP, also gets you another 1.5 degrees of overlap. Some, including me, like to make good power and keep good manners. Overlap matters. While you may argue that 10.5 degrees of overlap is child's play, I'll argue that it's too much for a street car. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

This is not a max effort recommendation.
It's just been proven time and time again that more exhaust duration works better with the ls3 head.
Lower splits perform well in the low to mid range but fall off in the top end because of a late Evo and heads ability to evacuate the exhaust efficiently.
With cathedral heads, different story.
Brian Tooley has tested this out thoroughly and you do not lose torque low down if your ivc is the same with LS3 square port engines.
Any camshaft for an LS3 head should have an Evo of 55 so you get a broader powerband.
A 45 or 46 ivc will give you good power in the low end too.
By the way the cam I recommended has only 7.5 degrees overlap not 10.5.
It would drive the same.
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Originally Posted by bortous85@gmail.com
This is not a max effort recommendation.
It's just been proven time and time again that more exhaust duration works better with the ls3 head.
Lower splits perform well in the low to mid range but fall off in the top end because of a late Evo and heads ability to evacuate the exhaust efficiently.
With cathedral heads, different story.
Brian Tooley has tested this out thoroughly and you do not lose torque low down if your ivc is the same with LS3 square port engines.
Any camshaft for an LS3 head should have an Evo of 55 so you get a broader powerband.
A 45 or 46 ivc will give you good power in the low end too.
By the way the cam I recommended has only 7.5 degrees overlap not 10.5.
It would drive the same.
Shoot, got too hot today. My total overlap calc was off. Your cam having more overlap wasn't. More like an extra 2.5 degrees of overlap. The OP's cam at 5 vs your cam at 7.5. It won't drive the same. If you think it will, why not add another 5 degrees of overlap for even more power. It will drive the same, right?
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Originally Posted by old motorhead
Shoot, got too hot today. My total overlap calc was off. Your cam having more overlap wasn't. More like an extra 2.5 degrees of overlap. The OP's cam at 5 vs your cam at 7.5. It won't drive the same. If you think it will, why not add another 5 degrees of overlap for even more power. It will drive the same, right?
I think the heat has fried your brain. Lol
2.5 degrees of overlap would barely be noticeable going from 5.
Adding another 5 degrees exhaust duration will only make it hang on better after peak and you will be at the point of losing some low end torque.

So no, let's not add any more overlap!
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Bunch of cam experts in here. I love it.
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Old 06-20-2019, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Frans96ss
Bunch of cam experts in here. I love it.
I'm not an expert.
Just stating facts.
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Originally Posted by Mfalk21

I have a bone stock 08 base model that I just picked up with 76K miles on her. Recently I took the car to Race Proven Motorsports in Delaware to have American Racing 1 7/8 headers with high flow cats, Vararam intake, plugs and a tune performed. First, huge shout out to RPM, Bill handled all of my questions with professionalism, and the shop did an awesome job with the tune.

The car laid down a baseline of 407whp and 414wtq.

After the headers, high flow cats, intake and tune the car made 442WHP and 444WTQ.
The above quote is from an earlier thread about your car.

I am confused how a bone stock LS3 with the M6 transmission could make 407 RWHP.

The M6 cars loose about 13% HP through the drivetrain.

So, your 436 HP engine should make right at 379 RWHP .... But you made 407 RWHP ... That's 28 RWHP more than most.

In fact, my 2011 GS which was bone stock except for a set of headers and a dyno tune made 405 RWHP (that's about what yours made when yours was bone stock)

shakes head ......
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Old 06-21-2019, 10:48 AM
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Not sure what to tell people who question the numbers.....? I didn't build the car, nor did I tune it, I just enjoy driving it.

Thanks for checking out my post.


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