[Z06] Streetlegal 300 MPH Z06 ?
#61
Melting Slicks
Good luck on the 255mph run ....I'm confident you'll hit that # for sure.
Your car is amazing and LPE and your car are one of the few that is leading the way for us Z06 owners that are intrested in serious performance upgrade for our cars.
Just curious on the 226mph run what was the MPH and time at the 1/4 mile. I thoughly understand if you don't want to disclose that info but I'm dying to know being that I want to TT my Z06 and I like hearing from someone that reallly has one instead of speculating times...and opinions on forums.
Your car is amazing and LPE and your car are one of the few that is leading the way for us Z06 owners that are intrested in serious performance upgrade for our cars.
Just curious on the 226mph run what was the MPH and time at the 1/4 mile. I thoughly understand if you don't want to disclose that info but I'm dying to know being that I want to TT my Z06 and I like hearing from someone that reallly has one instead of speculating times...and opinions on forums.
In fairness, I don't think Norm (or Lingenfelter) will just come out and tell all his/their secrets after all this time, effort, money, and patience to do a build like this.
Its this that makes projects truely special.
#62
Le Mans Master
IMSA finale of Nov 30th 1975. I am on the banking at Daytona about 185mph, and looking down the back straight at a small white dot in my rear view mirror. A few seconds later as I drift up on the north banking, there is a blast of sound and a blast of air as John Greenwood passes between me and the wall at two hundred fifty two (252) miles per hour
Tommy and you guys can have the 250+ MPH rides. I am now CHICKEN!
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Hey you can have a car like Norm's too! Just call LPE. Expect not to have your car for months and months to do all the R and D. Listen to everything they tell you to do and spend and make sure you don't get a shakey hand when your writing the check.
In fairness, I don't think Norm (or Lingenfelter) will just come out and tell all his/their secrets after all this time, effort, money, and patience to do a build like this.
Its this that makes projects truely special.
In fairness, I don't think Norm (or Lingenfelter) will just come out and tell all his/their secrets after all this time, effort, money, and patience to do a build like this.
Its this that makes projects truely special.
Hey you can't blame a guy for trying
I totally understand, my son and I are doing a joint project with another brand car and a performance shop that will be somewhat of a shocker to that car brand community when it is announced later next spring.
I have talked to LPE a couple of times.
I have a deposit on the upcoming ZR-1... so I'll have to wait and see the specs on the car when is released and decide if I reallly want the car or if my dealer can even can get me one! I'll go from there...and if I keep my Z06 then it's off to LPE or Katech. A hard choice for sure.
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Correct! I never said I was the fastest! My wife has a picture of me at about 200 MPH going into turn three at Daytona on the roof. Everything is going by very fast in the photo. One thing you can see very clear is the Goodyear name on the tires. Why? Because I had my foot on the brakes! It did not help. Lucky for me the car started to take the turn and turned enough to go all the way through turn three breaking into pieces. I was so sore it took about 20 minutes to get out of bed the next morning. I bumped a guy named Marvin Panch. He came out all right but my car turned (probably my inability to control it) and when the wind got under the 8" rear spoiler the fun began.
Tommy and you guys can have the 250+ MPH rides. I am now CHICKEN!
Tommy and you guys can have the 250+ MPH rides. I am now CHICKEN!
Add the friction roof element and... damn.
That reminds me... I gotta rent 'Stroker Ace' again.
#65
Team Owner
I believe Tommy has been 200 MPH. How many others have? I was clocked at Daytona on the back going into turn three in 1990 in a Camaro at 228 MPH (Did not use the stupid bus stop). It not only takes a few good size ***** but you have to be a little nuts! You guys can have those 250+ MPH runs. Mine are not that big and with age they have srunk!
#66
Le Mans Master
Listen ... during tuning they hit 1518 HP and 1400 lbs TQ @ 28 lbs boost on smaller turbos than the car currently runs.
So do your calculations ... an tell us what it would take to hit 300 with the Z's aeros ?
I say with over 1500 power ... the Z has a fair chance to set sail to the liftoff mark.
Dragcars/funnycars hit 330 or so in 1/4 with 2000 plus power.
So do your calculations ... an tell us what it would take to hit 300 with the Z's aeros ?
I say with over 1500 power ... the Z has a fair chance to set sail to the liftoff mark.
Dragcars/funnycars hit 330 or so in 1/4 with 2000 plus power.
Funny cars have 2000 plus horsepower???????????? Try again. They had 2,000 HP thirty years ago. Try 7 - 9,000 horsepower on nitro. Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funny_Car (among others). Also, the Z's aero package was designed to work at the limits of the car in stock or near stock condition. The aero package for 300 mph would have to be very different to prevent something spectacular from happening. Look at the C6R for clues. 300 miles per hour is dead serious territory, and shouldn't be tried at home.
#67
Burning Brakes
Do some homework.
Funny cars have 2000 plus horsepower???????????? Try again. They had 2,000 HP thirty years ago. Try 7 - 9,000 horsepower on nitro. Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funny_Car (among others). Also, the Z's aero package was designed to work at the limits of the car in stock or near stock condition. The aero package for 300 mph would have to be very different to prevent something spectacular from happening. Look at the C6R for clues. 300 miles per hour is dead serious territory, and shouldn't be tried at home.
Funny cars have 2000 plus horsepower???????????? Try again. They had 2,000 HP thirty years ago. Try 7 - 9,000 horsepower on nitro. Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funny_Car (among others). Also, the Z's aero package was designed to work at the limits of the car in stock or near stock condition. The aero package for 300 mph would have to be very different to prevent something spectacular from happening. Look at the C6R for clues. 300 miles per hour is dead serious territory, and shouldn't be tried at home.
#69
F = 0.5*Cd*air density*A*v^2
P = Fv = 0.5*Cd*air density*A*v^3
Increase v by 1.5 times (200 to 300), increase P by 1.5^3.
It's been done anyway:
1939 Mercedes-Benz T-80 Weltrekordwagen: The T-80 was an attempt at breaking speed records and demonstrate German engineering supremacy. Officially backed by the **** regime, the car was never tested because of the outbreak of World War II in September of that same year. It was originally planned that the car would be driven on the straight Autobahn near Dessau in 1940 at projected speeds of 600 km/h (373 mph). To obtain such speeds, the T-80 utilized the largest Daimler-Benz aircraft engine in existence, the DB-603: a mammoth 44,522cc V12 that produced 3,000-horsepower. Ferdinand Porsche designed the T-80. It was sheer luck that the car survived World War II.
#70
Le Mans Master
Keep hammering that Katech animal. The more you do the more you will like it and the better you will get.
#71
Le Mans Master
Just call me "little ones!"
#72
Burning Brakes
possible
Callaways Sledgehammer car did 254 with 'only' 850hp almost 15 years ago. So nearly double the power in a slipperyer car to get 46 more mph. Sounds possible although I know the resistance increases by squares or however you say it.
#73
if that concept is true, then the Z06 can cruise at topspeed ~ 205 MPH in 6th gear and only needs 350 RWHP to do so.
how? 6th gear, 205MPH = 4350 RPMs ( a Z06 generates 350 rwhp at that rpm) I know of people who tried full throttle cruising at 200MPH in 6th, no drop in speed yet no gain (obviously).
#74
I've personally seen this car do amazing things. The launch isn't particularly impressive, but the 70-200 mph dance is a sight to behold... covering so much distance, running through the gears faster and faster :-D
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the first stock-bodied production car over 300 mph was in 1999. It's a 368 ci. in. Pontiac.
http://www.kugelkomponents.com/bonne...onneville.html
http://www.kugelkomponents.com/bonne...onneville.html
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the first stock-bodied production car over 300 mph was in 1999. It's a 368 ci. in. Pontiac.
http://www.kugelkomponents.com/bonne...onneville.html
http://www.kugelkomponents.com/bonne...onneville.html
I found this to be a rather interesting quote from the linked article.
I've personally been above +190 mph more than a dozen times in my Firehawk and the one thing I was most impressed with was the stability at those velocities; even around sharp banks (relative to those velocities).
I fervently agree that weight is gravely important: my car weighs somewhere in the upper neighborhood of ~35xx lb. After all, downforce from aerodynamics is just trying to fabricate weight at extreme velocities in order to increase stability at said velocities. There is no better "downforce" than what came with the car stock; curb weight