Notices
C6 Corvette ZR1 & Z06 General info about GM’s Corvette Supercar, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Performance Upgrades, Suspension Setup for Street or Track
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Kraken

[Z06] "Engine drag control active" what does this mean

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 03:22 PM
  #1  
Coldmale's Avatar
Coldmale
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 406
Likes: 1
From: Kingdom of Bahrain
Default "Engine drag control active" what does this mean

Fitted brand new Nitto Invos 345 x 30 x 19 today and from the moment I hit the street, I get that message "Engine drag Control Active" - under even medium acceleration

Anyone know what it means?

John (Bahrain)
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 04:04 PM
  #2  
Dreamin's Avatar
Dreamin
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 2,643
Likes: 32
From: SoCal
Default

it means the ECU thinks there is some tire slip in decel and is cracking the throttle to reduce the engine braking effect. very common if you put taller tires on the rear (only).

if you do a search you'll find many threads about it ...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...ol-active.html
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 04:08 PM
  #3  
RichieRichZ06's Avatar
RichieRichZ06
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 14,553
Likes: 1,549
From: Supporting the Corvette Community at Abel Chevrolet in Rio Vista, CA 707-374-6317 Ext.123
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

Originally Posted by Coldmale
Fitted brand new Nitto Invos 345 x 30 x 19 today and from the moment I hit the street, I get that message "Engine drag Control Active" - under even medium acceleration

Anyone know what it means?

John (Bahrain)
It means that you should have changed the fronts to a 295/30/18 at the same time to keep the front to rear tire diameter bias even. The cars have a front to rear split of about 1.1" IIRC, but now you have changed that. It is not hurting anything. The car is warning you that it is sensing the rear wheels trying to lock up and is applying throttle to keep it from doing so. Of course, the rear tires are not really locking up under compression braking, but since you changed the diameter of the rear tires, the car thinks they are spinning slower then the fronts so it does this. Order some 295's for the front and you'll be fine.

RICH
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 05:57 PM
  #4  
Bill Dearborn's Avatar
Bill Dearborn
Tech Contributor
25 Year Member
Liked
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 41,063
Likes: 9,826
From: Charlotte, NC (formerly Endicott, NY)
Default

Its not the old days anymore. You just can't go around throwing any size tire on the C5's/C6's. You are not alone. A lot of people have been nailed by not doing their homework on tire diameter.

Bill
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 06:08 PM
  #5  
3LZZ06's Avatar
3LZZ06
_"SCOTT"_
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 6,870
Likes: 53
From: South Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Its not the old days anymore. You just can't go around throwing any size tire on the C5's/C6's. You are not alone. A lot of people have been nailed by not doing their homework on tire diameter.

Bill
Isn't that the truth...these high tech machines never cease to amaze me. They've come a long way with all the new technology but you have to play by their rules.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 06:31 PM
  #6  
Zoxxo's Avatar
Zoxxo
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,023
Likes: 266
From: San Jose California
Default

Originally Posted by Coldmale
under even medium acceleration
John (Bahrain)
It shouldn't be doing that under ACCeleration, only under DEceleration.

Z//
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:58 PM
  #7  
DaOtherOne's Avatar
DaOtherOne
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,243
Likes: 186
From: Fauquier, VA
Default

Originally Posted by Zoxxo
It shouldn't be doing that under ACCeleration, only under DEceleration.

Z//
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 01:32 AM
  #8  
Coldmale's Avatar
Coldmale
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 406
Likes: 1
From: Kingdom of Bahrain
Default

Originally Posted by RichieRichZ06
It means that you should have changed the fronts to a 295/30/18 at the same time to keep the front to rear tire diameter bias even. The cars have a front to rear split of about 1.1" IIRC, but now you have changed that. It is not hurting anything. The car is warning you that it is sensing the rear wheels trying to lock up and is applying throttle to keep it from doing so. Of course, the rear tires are not really locking up under compression braking, but since you changed the diameter of the rear tires, the car thinks they are spinning slower then the fronts so it does this. Order some 295's for the front and you'll be fine.

RICH
Actually I also changed the FRONTS but to Michelin Cups 265 x 35 x 18 so that mabe made the situation worse

What I am doing is balancing lateral grip and as the Cups are superior to the Nittos in this respect and as 285s are not avaiable where I live and as 295s would have needed a change in wheel width - looks like I am stuck with it.

Does anyone know if it results in a power loss?

Thanks

John
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 03:46 AM
  #9  
Zoxxo's Avatar
Zoxxo
Safety Car
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,023
Likes: 266
From: San Jose California
Default

Originally Posted by Coldmale
Does anyone know if it results in a power loss?
John
It does not.

It doesn't hurt anything EXCEPT if you are driving the car hard and are counting on every last ounce of engine braking. In that case you probably have the TC turned off anyway so...

Z//
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 12:19 PM
  #10  
RichieRichZ06's Avatar
RichieRichZ06
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 14,553
Likes: 1,549
From: Supporting the Corvette Community at Abel Chevrolet in Rio Vista, CA 707-374-6317 Ext.123
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

Originally Posted by Coldmale
Actually I also changed the FRONTS but to Michelin Cups 265 x 35 x 18 so that mabe made the situation worse

What I am doing is balancing lateral grip and as the Cups are superior to the Nittos in this respect and as 285s are not avaiable where I live and as 295s would have needed a change in wheel width - looks like I am stuck with it.

Does anyone know if it results in a power loss?

Thanks

John

295's do not REQUIRE a wider wheel, it is just suggested to run a wider wheel. I have been running them for 2 years on not only PS2's, but also a full set of Hoosier A6's and a full set of R6's. On the track, Auto-x or street there is no issues and the tires work great.

Like others said, there are no ill effects of the "Engine Drag" warning.

RICH
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 01:10 PM
  #11  
GTABurnout's Avatar
GTABurnout
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 484
Likes: 0
From: Tucson AZ
Default

I went with 285's to go along wth my 345's. It actually kept the ratio very close to stock...
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 01:38 PM
  #12  
RichieRichZ06's Avatar
RichieRichZ06
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 14,553
Likes: 1,549
From: Supporting the Corvette Community at Abel Chevrolet in Rio Vista, CA 707-374-6317 Ext.123
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

Originally Posted by GTABurnout
I went with 285's to go along wth my 345's. It actually kept the ratio very close to stock...
Yeah, If you keep the split with in +/- .25" from the factory split it seems to keep the computer happy. Any more or less of a change and it knows.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 02:37 PM
  #13  
04_Z06_CE's Avatar
04_Z06_CE
Safety Car
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,717
Likes: 2
From: Westlake Village, Ca
Default

Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Its not the old days anymore. You just can't go around throwing any size tire on the C5's/C6's. You are not alone. A lot of people have been nailed by not doing their homework on tire diameter.

Bill
What ????
There are ton of us guys running the 345's nittos...
No biggie , and the homework wasent all that hard either..
As always Rich with great info
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2013 | 10:34 PM
  #14  
Pete's 08's Avatar
Pete's 08
Cruising
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Kirkland WA
Default

I just got 275/35/18 and 345/30/19 michelins super sports about a month ago, and I get the warning only at high speeds when I down shift from 6th to 4th or so, and even then its only once in a while. It doesn't bother me, but would have looked at 285's or 295's(if available) for the front had I known... oh well. Doesn't hurt anything and I don't physically notice the car doing anything different.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2013 | 01:15 AM
  #15  
Bill Dearborn's Avatar
Bill Dearborn
Tech Contributor
25 Year Member
Liked
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 41,063
Likes: 9,826
From: Charlotte, NC (formerly Endicott, NY)
Default

Originally Posted by Pete's 08
I just got 275/35/18 and 345/30/19 michelins super sports about a month ago, and I get the warning only at high speeds when I down shift from 6th to 4th or so, and even then its only once in a while. It doesn't bother me, but would have looked at 285's or 295's(if available) for the front had I known... oh well. Doesn't hurt anything and I don't physically notice the car doing anything different.
When that happens the EBCM tells the ECM to add throttle to keep the rear wheels from locking up on deceleration. Won't be particularly noticeable except when you don't want to have more throttle when slowing/stopping.

Bill
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2013 | 01:42 AM
  #16  
Pete's 08's Avatar
Pete's 08
Cruising
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 14
Likes: 1
From: Kirkland WA
Default

Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
When that happens the EBCM tells the ECM to add throttle to keep the rear wheels from locking up on deceleration. Won't be particularly noticeable except when you don't want to have more throttle when slowing/stopping.

Bill

Yep, and to be honest with you the hand full of times its happened, I can't say that I've noticed the car do anything. It must be such a small amount t of throttle input that under somewhat normal street driving it isn't really enough to notice...
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2013 | 10:10 AM
  #17  
erikszr1's Avatar
erikszr1
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 2,503
Likes: 71
Default

nittos on the rear and Michelins on the front, plus miss matched sizes. uhg..........
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To "Engine drag control active" what does this mean





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:56 AM.

story-0
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-1
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-2
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE