[Z06] GM document for normal oil consumption ridiculous
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GM document for normal oil consumption ridiculous
I have 2008 C6Z06. Commuter with 21K miles. (Have the C5 T1 car to kick around) I noticed it was consuming 1 qt per 1000 miles which is much more than any corvette, or for that matter, any other car I have owned.
So started an "oil consumption" process with my local dealer. Well after doing this for the last 5K or so miles and it consuming 6+ quarts, I was told yesterday that:
According to GM document #2222953, normal oil consumption for high performance engine LS7 is 1 qt per 500 miles and that GM DVM Ray Moffat advised that this is normal oil use.
Very disappointing to say the least.
Anyone else experiencing this type of oil consumption and does this sound reasonable?
So started an "oil consumption" process with my local dealer. Well after doing this for the last 5K or so miles and it consuming 6+ quarts, I was told yesterday that:
According to GM document #2222953, normal oil consumption for high performance engine LS7 is 1 qt per 500 miles and that GM DVM Ray Moffat advised that this is normal oil use.
Very disappointing to say the least.
Anyone else experiencing this type of oil consumption and does this sound reasonable?
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I have 2008 C6Z06. Commuter with 21K miles. (Have the C5 T1 car to kick around) I noticed it was consuming 1 qt per 1000 miles which is much more than any corvette, or for that matter, any other car I have owned.
So started an "oil consumption" process with my local dealer. Well after doing this for the last 5K or so miles and it consuming 6+ quarts, I was told yesterday that:
According to GM document #2222953, normal oil consumption for high performance engine LS7 is 1 qt per 500 miles and that GM DVM Ray Moffat advised that this is normal oil use.
Very disappointing to say the least.
Anyone else experiencing this type of oil consumption and does this sound reasonable?
So started an "oil consumption" process with my local dealer. Well after doing this for the last 5K or so miles and it consuming 6+ quarts, I was told yesterday that:
According to GM document #2222953, normal oil consumption for high performance engine LS7 is 1 qt per 500 miles and that GM DVM Ray Moffat advised that this is normal oil use.
Very disappointing to say the least.
Anyone else experiencing this type of oil consumption and does this sound reasonable?
93cruiser
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That is BS!!! That is GM's way of saying thier problem is normal so no warranty. The reps are a waste of time most often. A lawyers letter is more reactionary.....
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I have 2008 C6Z06. Commuter with 21K miles. (Have the C5 T1 car to kick around) I noticed it was consuming 1 qt per 1000 miles which is much more than any corvette, or for that matter, any other car I have owned.
So started an "oil consumption" process with my local dealer. Well after doing this for the last 5K or so miles and it consuming 6+ quarts, I was told yesterday that:
According to GM document #2222953, normal oil consumption for high performance engine LS7 is 1 qt per 500 miles and that GM DVM Ray Moffat advised that this is normal oil use.
Very disappointing to say the least.
Anyone else experiencing this type of oil consumption and does this sound reasonable?
So started an "oil consumption" process with my local dealer. Well after doing this for the last 5K or so miles and it consuming 6+ quarts, I was told yesterday that:
According to GM document #2222953, normal oil consumption for high performance engine LS7 is 1 qt per 500 miles and that GM DVM Ray Moffat advised that this is normal oil use.
Very disappointing to say the least.
Anyone else experiencing this type of oil consumption and does this sound reasonable?
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I have 24k on mine and it's daily driver, FWIW I drive pretty aggressively and have NEVER noticed a significant change in oil level between oil changes. I put new oil in when the oil meter is at about 5% so ~5000 miles with negligible change in oil level.
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That is totally not acceptable.
Hell at that rate you never have to change the oil !!!!
I had a motor that used that much oil but thats because it was built like crap and had blowby .....
DH
Hell at that rate you never have to change the oil !!!!
I had a motor that used that much oil but thats because it was built like crap and had blowby .....
DH
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I don't have near as much milage on my car as you do, but I have been into my engine three times for cam swaps, and since then I have not used a drop of oil. I have the normal oily intake syndrome as most LS engines do but I never see the dipstick indicating any reason to add any oil.
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That is much too high!!! That's grounds for putting in new rings as was done on a number of LS6 engines for MY2001 like mine. GM used to say that qt per 2000 miles was acceptable. Qt per 500 for normal street driving is ridiculous. With 41k on my daily driver, my LS7 uses about a qt per 5k.
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I have 2008 C6Z06. Commuter with 21K miles. (Have the C5 T1 car to kick around) I noticed it was consuming 1 qt per 1000 miles which is much more than any corvette, or for that matter, any other car I have owned.
So started an "oil consumption" process with my local dealer. Well after doing this for the last 5K or so miles and it consuming 6+ quarts, I was told yesterday that:
According to GM document #2222953, normal oil consumption for high performance engine LS7 is 1 qt per 500 miles and that GM DVM Ray Moffat advised that this is normal oil use.
Very disappointing to say the least.
Anyone else experiencing this type of oil consumption and does this sound reasonable?
So started an "oil consumption" process with my local dealer. Well after doing this for the last 5K or so miles and it consuming 6+ quarts, I was told yesterday that:
According to GM document #2222953, normal oil consumption for high performance engine LS7 is 1 qt per 500 miles and that GM DVM Ray Moffat advised that this is normal oil use.
Very disappointing to say the least.
Anyone else experiencing this type of oil consumption and does this sound reasonable?
Document ID: 1877707
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Oil Consumption Diagnosis
Checks
Causes
Excessive oil consumption, not due to leaks, is the use of 1 L (1 qt) or more of engine oil within 3 200 kilometers (2,000 miles).
Preliminary
The causes of excessive oil consumption may include the following conditions:
• External oil leaks
Refer to Oil Leak Diagnosis.
• Incorrect oil level or improper reading of the oil level indicator
With the vehicle on a level surface, run the engine for a few minutes. Allow adequate drain down time, 2-3 minutes, and inspect for the correct engine oil level.
• Improper oil viscosity
Refer to the vehicle owners manual and use the recommended SAE grade and viscosity for the prevailing temperatures.
• Continuous high speed driving and/or severe usage
• Crankcase ventilation system restrictions or malfunctioning components
Refer to Crankcase Ventilation System Inspection/Diagnosis.
• Worn valve guides and/or valve stems
• Worn or improperly installed valve stem oil seals
Refer to Spark Plug Inspection.
• Piston rings broken, worn, or not seated properly
Allow adequate time for the rings to seat.
Replace worn piston rings, as necessary.
Refer to Cylinder Leakage Test.
• Piston and rings improperly installed or not fitted to the cylinder bore
Refer to Lower Engine Noise, Regardless of Engine Speed.
Remember the dealer and the auto manufacturer are two different business entities and have different agendas.
The Service Writer can look this up at his work station with you watching. Just type in Consumption Oil into the search field and it will show up.
Bill
Last edited by Bill Dearborn; 03-26-2010 at 11:21 PM.
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My 08' has about 7,200 miles...checked the oil about every 1,000 miles or so - never had to add any and let's just say I driver her like she is meant to be driven.
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Ya know... additional oil has been known to "leak out" during the oil monitoring escapade. Unfortunately, it could tend to skew the test a bit and GM would now consider the useage "excessive". It would be terrible if that occured..