[Z06] how will our 505hp Z's stack up against the '13 662hp shelby?
05-04-2012, 09:16 AM
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so essentially they put out a car that is "faster" than all the cars out there as far as power is concerned as just a number.... but it cant get the power to the ground due to traction...
so most mods u do to this car would have to be suspension related??
my boy and his dad own a tow company... i see many 2013 gt500s being winched from trees in their future ..
they've already had a few of the current body styles..
it is still solid rear axle for 13' correct??
so most mods u do to this car would have to be suspension related??
my boy and his dad own a tow company... i see many 2013 gt500s being winched from trees in their future ..
they've already had a few of the current body styles..
it is still solid rear axle for 13' correct??
05-04-2012, 09:20 AM
#262
Drifting
but the thing about the z06 is it is a turn key beast.
the car comes with proper braking setup, proper suspension setup, proper wheel setup ( could do better with the ****** EMTs that were on there but)
It seems like you get a gt500 and you need to go wider with the tires, and do other work...
Also interesting that a solid rear axle car will get more swirly on a launch than a IRS z06 (and ive seen people take out walls at e-town with vettes)
05-04-2012, 10:13 AM
#263
Racer
It'll be very interesting to see how the car performs once it actually comes out. Their previous car wasn't very exciting once the numbers hit the world. They have potential, but I'd be surprised to see a stock 2013 off the showroom floor run 11.5's or better.
You'd think traction and huge rear wheels with sticky tires would have been the very first upgrade. Then everything else. I gues owners can alway drop some cash to add traction with new wheels and tires.
Can't wait to see the specs. I really like the look, but just to add insult to injury.... I will laugh histerically if the ZL1 produces better numbers because the mustang guys over at the ford forums are really talking some serious smack!!
You'd think traction and huge rear wheels with sticky tires would have been the very first upgrade. Then everything else. I gues owners can alway drop some cash to add traction with new wheels and tires.
Can't wait to see the specs. I really like the look, but just to add insult to injury.... I will laugh histerically if the ZL1 produces better numbers because the mustang guys over at the ford forums are really talking some serious smack!!
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05-04-2012, 10:23 AM
#264
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But the "low" MSRP kind of scares me, this will draw a "different" type of crowd. Lol @ my stereotype right here, but stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason.
05-04-2012, 10:51 AM
#265
Le Mans Master
Its the tires, not the solid axle, that is the weak point for straight line acceleration. Dedicated drag cars use solid axles, not IRS.
05-04-2012, 01:59 PM
#266
Team Owner
Yes, it (along with the even better handling Boss 302) is a very good handling set up for what it is but it is still a live rear.
I think it will do it, 
it won't be done by every single person that's attempting it of course but in the right hands (Evan Smith?) and in the right conditions I think the car can get well into the low 11s in bone stock trim. 
it won't be done by every single person that's attempting it of course but in the right hands (Evan Smith?) and in the right conditions I think the car can get well into the low 11s in bone stock trim.
05-04-2012, 02:20 PM
#267
Racer
Yes, it (along with the even better handling Boss 302) is a very good handling set up for what it is but it is still a live rear.
I think it will do it, it won't be done by every single person that's attempting it of course but in the right hands (Evan Smith?) and in the right conditions I think the car can get well into the low 11s in bone stock trim.
I think it will do it,
it won't be done by every single person that's attempting it of course but in the right hands (Evan Smith?) and in the right conditions I think the car can get well into the low 11s in bone stock trim.
05-04-2012, 02:25 PM
#268
Melting Slicks
Talented rivers a going 10s?????How many gus have gone 10s since 2006 less than 5 with a stock z on drag radials .Realistically its a 11.7 car with a few mid elevens with excellent trck and driver.Why the hell is everyone so partial to a car instead of jut calling it like it is.Yo are suppose to get beat by a car with 157 h.p more even if its 5 or 600 pounds heavier.
05-04-2012, 02:30 PM
#269
Racer
Talented rivers a going 10s?????How many gus have gone 10s since 2006 less than 5 with a stock z on drag radials .Realistically its a 11.7 car with a few mid elevens with excellent trck and driver.Why the hell is everyone so partial to a car instead of jut calling it like it is.Yo are suppose to get beat by a car with 157 h.p more even if its 5 or 600 pounds heavier.
05-04-2012, 02:57 PM
#271
Racer
05-04-2012, 03:50 PM
#272
Melting Slicks
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/04/2...11-93-seconds/
ZL1 did the QM in 11.93 seconds. See above link.
ZL1 did the QM in 11.93 seconds. See above link.
05-04-2012, 04:22 PM
#274
Le Mans Master
A decent Z driver can run mid to low 11's and the talented driver are seeing 10's!! I hope with 662hp that your correct for mustang owners sake. But I just have a the typical experienced driver won't get enough traction to capitalise on the low end tq or the power that beast makes.
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05-04-2012, 05:24 PM
#275
Melting Slicks
00 vette .Read carefully what i write:505 h.p 3150 pounds vs 662 h.p 3850 pounds power to weight is more on the gt 500 that usually is what decides which is faster.Granted neither car will hook up on stock tires and my guess is that given the 630 ft lbs of torque that it puts out the gt 500will benefit far more from a set of drag radials.This cr will go 10s with drag radials guaranteed, and much more consistently than we do.Huge horsepower and torque advantage plus traction spell trouble.10.6 at 129mph is my guess.
05-04-2012, 05:40 PM
#276
Racer
00 vette .Read carefully what i write:505 h.p 3150 pounds vs 662 h.p 3850 pounds power to weight is more on the gt 500 that usually is what decides which is faster.Granted neither car will hook up on stock tires and my guess is that given the 630 ft lbs of torque that it puts out the gt 500will benefit far more from a set of drag radials.This cr will go 10s with drag radials guaranteed, and much more consistently than we do.Huge horsepower and torque advantage plus traction spell trouble.10.6 at 129mph is my guess.
Your right about traction. If it gets traction, it is trouble!
05-04-2012, 05:42 PM
#277
_"SCOTT"_
Can't wait for the results with this car, and the Viper when it comes out.
05-04-2012, 05:45 PM
#278
Racer
Yeah, I too think its a 10 second car with DR's. Like I said, I could be wrong... But I feel it will have traction issues in stock form only allowing mid 11's. JMO
05-04-2012, 06:48 PM
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00 vette .Read carefully what i write:505 h.p 3150 pounds vs 662 h.p 3850 pounds power to weight is more on the gt 500 that usually is what decides which is faster.Granted neither car will hook up on stock tires and my guess is that given the 630 ft lbs of torque that it puts out the gt 500will benefit far more from a set of drag radials.This cr will go 10s with drag radials guaranteed, and much more consistently than we do.Huge horsepower and torque advantage plus traction spell trouble.10.6 at 129mph is my guess.