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[Z06] How Many Z06 Owners Are Running Solid Stainless Exhaust Valves?

Old 09-27-2012, 02:31 AM
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Can someone tell me what Ferrea Super Alloy valves are made of?

I have found a few examples of people running these also in lieu of the stock hollow stemmed valves.

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Old 09-27-2012, 08:07 AM
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http://www.ferrea.com/Ferrea_2012_Catalog.pdf
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:08 AM
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There new hollow stem is supposed to be in any day now, weight is quoted around 89 grams
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
Can someone tell me what Ferrea Super Alloy valves are made of?

I have found a few examples of people running these also in lieu of the stock hollow stemmed valves.

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On page 6 is a material listing: http://www.ferrea.com/Ferrea_2012_Catalog.pdf
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
Also, those of us who have switched to bronze valve guides, but stuck with the stock exhaust valves, it would be good to hear from you too.
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I only have 3,000 miles on my new setup with bronze guides (original guides were in spec despite 4 yrs with a cam fwiw), new OEM exhaust valves and katech ti mo intake valves. I will continue to rack up the miles however, and report everything on here.

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Originally Posted by setxws6
I have SS valves in now....after a complete engine rebuild from my stock #7 cylinder exhaust valve failing 2 weeks after a cam install. Happened back in Nov '11.

If you have stock exhaust valves it's simply a game of Russian roulette.
That is being nearsighted looking at the result of worn guides causing a concentricity issue which is likely the key issue, nothing has proven to be wrong with the valve itself. I work at an OEM, I see the dollars flow through R&D and the incredible testing they do, they have a ton more knowledge than anyone doing 10-20 head jobs per year. There is a reason why the OEMs go with hollow/sodium filled vs. SS. It would be fair to say any engine pushing the limit with power/reliability is more of a gamble than a low output commuter car, that I'd agree with.

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WCCH Stage II heads w/ CHE bronze guides and SS exhaust valves. I've only put about 1k miles on it since the heads/cam install last month.
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
Like the thread title says, some of us thought it a good idea to get a feel for how many on this forum have changed from the OEM hollow stemmed exhaust valves, over to a solid stainless exhaust valve.

I figure this will give us information on two fronts.

It will let us know how many have any sort of mileage on this type of setup as well as draw attention to any issues as a result.

Also, those of us who have switched to bronze valve guides, but stuck with the stock exhaust valves, it would be good to hear from you too.

If you've gone to bronze guides, then if your stock guides were in spec or out of spec, when you changed to bronze guides, well then post that information up too.

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I just changed mine to Solid Stainless Steel, Lunati dual springs, and bronze guides. Mileage to low to post. I did a cylinder head exchange similar to what you did, I'll find out in a couple of weeks what the specs were on my stock guides.
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21-4N stainless steel exhaust valves, stock intake, bronze bushings.

Car is 100% tracked. Only 100 miles so far.
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
With regard to RichieRichZ06 's prior post describing his build:
Well he tracks his car too. I guess Katech didn't push him too hard to use the OEM valves they usually recommend


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Originally Posted by vertC6
Is that no wear on both the intake and exhaust guides? Your saying that you have put 10k on these guides with the Ferrea valves and cam right?

Who else has SS exhaust valves and have checked them 10k miles or more after installing them?
Neither the intake nor the exhaust guides were showing signs of wear in my heads. Not surprising if you look at that sticky on the top of the forum indicating only a small percentage of heads had a defect in the guides.

I did my Stage IV conversion around 11K miles, and that included the head work and replacing the exhaust valves, but no guide replacement. I had the cam in it already with the stock valves for about 3K miles before that. When I de-tuned the car late last year (different cam, different clutch, ceramic coated the headers), car had about 22K miles on it, so I ran roughly 11K miles with the stock guides and the Ferrea valves. I have about 3K miles on this new setup so far.
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ss valves on new rhs...at 9k no issues I will be checking my guides in a few weeks.. street driven and drag raced miles
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
With regard to RichieRichZ06 's prior post describing his build:
Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
Well he tracks his car too. I guess Katech didn't push him too hard to use the OEM valves they usually recommend


DH
Just to clarify.... Katech built our 427, but I had West Coast do the heads because our stock ones were paper weights after the blow up. Jason shipped us the engine, we bolted the heads on it, along with all of the other finishing parts and installed it into the car.

To be completely honest, I never told Richard @ WCCH specifically what to do other than "do everything to them that you normally do." He knew that Katech was building the engine and I shouldn't have assumed that he would do stock valves. He installed solid SS valves when he built them and I didn't know that until after they were shipped back to me and I saw the receipt. However, Jason did yell at me a little for doing that.

In either case, I am not worried about the engine at all and we've had lot's of trouble free fun with it.

RICH

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Old 09-27-2012, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
Below are 25 that I found in just a short period of time. I am sure there are more. Some of these people have yet to chime in though.

Sixbills
walhan_qtr
Cvette713
C54CSTER
RyneZ06
FASTBLUEZ06
lane_change
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RichieRichZ06
Zoxxo
95jersey
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ANGRY Z
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C5Lion
chadyellowz06
busaetr
GIO-305
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htvette
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spdmn75
Yes I had Rev SS with my heads, cam & nitrous build. I don't have logged miles because I sold the set up and car once it was done.
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if you track the car, we feel ss valves and guides (if out of spec) with the appropriate spring is a wise option... not going to argue about it, we have simply seen way too many failures on bone stock cars....... take it for what its worth...
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Originally Posted by RyneZ06
if you track the car, we feel ss valves and guides (if out of spec) with the appropriate spring is a wise option... not going to argue about it, we have simply seen way too many failures on bone stock cars....... take it for what its worth...
Glad a vendor chime in Ryne.

How many cars have you all done with Solid stainless Valves up until now?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
Glad a vendor chime in Ryne.

How many cars have you all done with Solid stainless Valves up until now?

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without going into my records and looking, around 30ish .... that is a lot considering we are a small shop
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I had my heads reworked at about 30k and 30 track events. New SS values on exhaust and new bronze guides for all valves. Still using stock intake valves. New springs throughout. Guide wear I was told was bad and way out of spec but don't have any numbers. Parts are sitting in my garage and maybe at some point I will measure them.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:15 PM
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WCCH worked my heads over. SS exhaust with bronze guides. A couple intake valves replaced too due to wear. Big cam, Manley Nextel springs and 13:1 comp with e85. Not many street miles since then but about 7 HPDEs in advanced groups-
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