[Z06] Another tire question (sorry!)
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Another tire question (sorry!)
All:
My 2009 Z needs tires (the original GY runflats have 16k on them, and are well past the wear indicators).
Based on a lot of great information here on the forum, I was thinking of using Michelin PS2's (in the stock factory sizes)? Any opinions?
Additionally (regarding price).........what is a good out the door price right now for them? (I have a quote for $2,145.00)?
Thanks in advance for your help,
kev
My 2009 Z needs tires (the original GY runflats have 16k on them, and are well past the wear indicators).
Based on a lot of great information here on the forum, I was thinking of using Michelin PS2's (in the stock factory sizes)? Any opinions?
Additionally (regarding price).........what is a good out the door price right now for them? (I have a quote for $2,145.00)?
Thanks in advance for your help,
kev
#3
Le Mans Master
Wow, that's high. I just had a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports installed with road hazard warranty and everything for ~$1700. Discount Tire matched the price quoted from here:
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/
I went with 285-35-18 for the front and 345-30-19 for the rear. Came out to $1302 and change.
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/
I went with 285-35-18 for the front and 345-30-19 for the rear. Came out to $1302 and change.
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The PS2s are probably run flats and the Pilot Super Sport tires aren't run flats. That is part of the price differential. The price you have for the PS2s is a good number. You will pay about that much to have them shipped to you from Tire Rack. If your price includes installation it is a good deal.
I have the PS2 Zero Pressure tires on my 08Z and really like them.
Bill
I have the PS2 Zero Pressure tires on my 08Z and really like them.
Bill
#6
Not for PS2's.
Super Sports are quite a bit cheaper than PS2's. They are also not run flats, which may or may not be of importance/concern to the OP.
For the OP, there is a lot of internet pricing... Google 'em up. One concern with run flats is finding a place to mount them -- not all shops are willing / have the proper equipment. I took mine to a local Sears, which is listed as a run flat installation facility by one of the large online marketers (Tire Rack) and I had a bit of a tussle with them (the kid they had doing the job did not have the proper equipment or the experience to get the job done... I finally got the manager out in the shop and he got 'em on). I will not be back to that facility for any run flat tire mounting/dismounting.
For the OP, there is a lot of internet pricing... Google 'em up. One concern with run flats is finding a place to mount them -- not all shops are willing / have the proper equipment. I took mine to a local Sears, which is listed as a run flat installation facility by one of the large online marketers (Tire Rack) and I had a bit of a tussle with them (the kid they had doing the job did not have the proper equipment or the experience to get the job done... I finally got the manager out in the shop and he got 'em on). I will not be back to that facility for any run flat tire mounting/dismounting.
#7
Le Mans Master
The PS2s are probably run flats and the Pilot Super Sport tires aren't run flats. That is part of the price differential. The price you have for the PS2s is a good number. You will pay about that much to have them shipped to you from Tire Rack. If your price includes installation it is a good deal.
I have the PS2 Zero Pressure tires on my 08Z and really like them.
Bill
I have the PS2 Zero Pressure tires on my 08Z and really like them.
Bill
#8
Race Director
The best runflats are M PS2 or Bridgestone Pole Position.
Non RFT's M PSS have been available as low as $1400 - search tire threads in Z06 section. Also check out this thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1584744284
I like my Nitto NT-05's but now that M PSS are available in the same price range, no advantage to the NT-05's. Some like Nitto Invos, and they are good price and excellent wear, but not great grip compared with the others.
Some feel the PSS must not have the grip as it has a 300 treadwear rating, but it does have excellent grip and very good tire wear. I can pull over 1G on a flat corner with my stock size PSS. Others have gone with 285/35-18 and 345/30-19 sizes.
Deciding on a RFT or non-RFT is your decision. Those of us that have non-RFT's usually carry an air inflator (covers most slow punctures), a tire patch kit (bigger punctures) and Slime (can't get at the puncture) and figure that will get us home or to some place safe. Those that insist on RFT's don't want to be stranded at all and I understand that if they drive very busy freeways or have lots of rain.
Another consideration out here in the west is can you get to somewhere? Realistically I have driven in places that 100 miles on a RFT might get me to a little town that might have a place to stay, no shop that could change an 18-19-20" RFT and certainly would take 2-3 days to get any replacement Z06 tire (RFT or non- RFT) shipped in. Enjoy the scenery and hope you can call a tow service with either a cell phone or land line (they do still have those?).
Non RFT's M PSS have been available as low as $1400 - search tire threads in Z06 section. Also check out this thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...post1584744284
I like my Nitto NT-05's but now that M PSS are available in the same price range, no advantage to the NT-05's. Some like Nitto Invos, and they are good price and excellent wear, but not great grip compared with the others.
Some feel the PSS must not have the grip as it has a 300 treadwear rating, but it does have excellent grip and very good tire wear. I can pull over 1G on a flat corner with my stock size PSS. Others have gone with 285/35-18 and 345/30-19 sizes.
Deciding on a RFT or non-RFT is your decision. Those of us that have non-RFT's usually carry an air inflator (covers most slow punctures), a tire patch kit (bigger punctures) and Slime (can't get at the puncture) and figure that will get us home or to some place safe. Those that insist on RFT's don't want to be stranded at all and I understand that if they drive very busy freeways or have lots of rain.
Another consideration out here in the west is can you get to somewhere? Realistically I have driven in places that 100 miles on a RFT might get me to a little town that might have a place to stay, no shop that could change an 18-19-20" RFT and certainly would take 2-3 days to get any replacement Z06 tire (RFT or non- RFT) shipped in. Enjoy the scenery and hope you can call a tow service with either a cell phone or land line (they do still have those?).
#10
Safety Car
If you buy a RF go ahead and get the extra "replace a tire" for any reason warranty. Bridgestone says any puncture can't be repaired. Michelin says a RF that has been driven on (that is the point right?) can't be repaired. I had a puncture on my original Badyear RF and had no problem fixing it as it happened overnight and I pulled the tire and took it to my local Discount Tire and they fixed it.
#11
Melting Slicks
I have the PSSs in a 285/345 combo and 550rwhp. They grip terrific, and paid $1,272 shipped. No brainier unless you can't get around not having a run flat.
#12
Instructor
Thread Starter
Much thanks to everyone for the replies, they are greatly appreciated!
I really like the idea of a runflat tire - I will go ahead with the Michelins (looking forward to getting them on the car!)
Now to spend the weekend wrecking what's left of the Goodyears!! LOL
Thanks again,
kev
I really like the idea of a runflat tire - I will go ahead with the Michelins (looking forward to getting them on the car!)
Now to spend the weekend wrecking what's left of the Goodyears!! LOL
Thanks again,
kev
#13
Instructor
Thread Starter
Just wanted to thank everyone again for the information!
I purchased the PS2 ZP's (in stock factory Z06 sizes) late last week, and spent the weekend putting some miles on them. I have never gotten too excited about tires before, but these are pretty darn amazing tires!
The GY factory tires were extremely loud, and the car would track in every road surface imperfection. The ZP's are SO much more quiet, and the car is totally different (better in every way) regarding its behavior.
I could easily break the GY's loose in second gear from a roll - but have struggled to get the ZP's loose. I just can't get over how much better these tires are.
Thanks again,
kev
I purchased the PS2 ZP's (in stock factory Z06 sizes) late last week, and spent the weekend putting some miles on them. I have never gotten too excited about tires before, but these are pretty darn amazing tires!
The GY factory tires were extremely loud, and the car would track in every road surface imperfection. The ZP's are SO much more quiet, and the car is totally different (better in every way) regarding its behavior.
I could easily break the GY's loose in second gear from a roll - but have struggled to get the ZP's loose. I just can't get over how much better these tires are.
Thanks again,
kev
#14
Le Mans Master
It may just be the difference between worn tires and new tires. The GY gripped well when they were new, but that didn't last long.
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I bought my M PS 2 ZP's two years ago and have a little over 10,000 miles on them. They still ride like new but the grip is a little less than new. I have found running the tire pressure at 30 pounds hot really improves the ride. I will always have the ZP's as I was stranded several years ago with a flat. Great tires.
#16
Race Director
Just wanted to thank everyone again for the information!
I purchased the PS2 ZP's (in stock factory Z06 sizes) late last week, and spent the weekend putting some miles on them. I have never gotten too excited about tires before, but these are pretty darn amazing tires!
The GY factory tires were extremely loud, and the car would track in every road surface imperfection. The ZP's are SO much more quiet, and the car is totally different (better in every way) regarding its behavior.
I could easily break the GY's loose in second gear from a roll - but have struggled to get the ZP's loose. I just can't get over how much better these tires are.
Thanks again,
kev
I purchased the PS2 ZP's (in stock factory Z06 sizes) late last week, and spent the weekend putting some miles on them. I have never gotten too excited about tires before, but these are pretty darn amazing tires!
The GY factory tires were extremely loud, and the car would track in every road surface imperfection. The ZP's are SO much more quiet, and the car is totally different (better in every way) regarding its behavior.
I could easily break the GY's loose in second gear from a roll - but have struggled to get the ZP's loose. I just can't get over how much better these tires are.
Thanks again,
kev
#17
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I purchased the stock 18/19 inch size Corvette Z06 Michelin PS2 ZP tires back in July and drive the car cross country +/-3600 miles and loved the way the car drove and the reduced road noise. The thing I can't stand is the look of the Michelin stock size rear tires. I'd like to up-size to the 345's on the rear but did not see that that size came in a ZP. Is there any danger in running the stock 275 ZP's up front and 345 non XP's on the rear? I'm afraid the car will look funny if I don't lower the rear which I've been thinking about doing. Maybe lower both front and rear?
Thanks,
James West
Thanks,
James West
#18
Safety Car
Personally I am not a fan of running tires of different kinds front to rear even if by the same mfg.
Also the Nannies need a similar size spread to stock, so the 285/345 combo works with little problem. I can't say that for the 265/345 combo or is it 275/345? I don't remember as I went to 285/345 Pilot SSs pretty quickly on my car.
Also the Nannies need a similar size spread to stock, so the 285/345 combo works with little problem. I can't say that for the 265/345 combo or is it 275/345? I don't remember as I went to 285/345 Pilot SSs pretty quickly on my car.
#19
Drifting
If you buy a RF go ahead and get the extra "replace a tire" for any reason warranty. Bridgestone says any puncture can't be repaired. Michelin says a RF that has been driven on (that is the point right?) can't be repaired. I had a puncture on my original Badyear RF and had no problem fixing it as it happened overnight and I pulled the tire and took it to my local Discount Tire and they fixed it.