Calvo and LMR-new project
02-20-2016, 04:54 AM
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Calvo and LMR-new project
After I realized I can only run wide open for 4 min and 16 miles before I'm out of meth. I decided I'm going to build me a motor with lmr new intake and a set a of port injectors and try and get away from methanol as a form of fuel and use it or nitrous for cooling IAT. I think it can be done and I'm going to go that way. Has anyone found an electric high pressure fuel pump? Or is it going to be a few years for after market support?
02-20-2016, 11:10 AM
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After I realized I can only run wide open for 4 min and 16 miles before I'm out of meth. I decided I'm going to build me a motor with lmr new intake and a set a of port injectors and try and get away from methanol as a form of fuel and use it or nitrous for cooling IAT. I think it can be done and I'm going to go that way. Has anyone found an electric high pressure fuel pump? Or is it going to be a few years for after market support?
02-20-2016, 11:50 AM
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well, yeah, baller. do it, hurry. call joe @ CPR in arizona, he can send a pump kit like mine for the tank.
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02-20-2016, 11:52 AM
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02-22-2016, 11:56 PM
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Btw, what does LMR's intake look like? Haven't seen any pics of it .
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02-22-2016, 11:58 PM
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I want to be able to run the car more then 4 min at wide open throttle without worrying about running out of meth. We ran a poker run last year and it would have been a nightmare to stop and fill up meth all the time.
02-23-2016, 11:35 AM
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Under normal closed loop control factory fueling will ale care if everything and in boost the factory Ls setup kicks in.. This would be super reliable since it basically uses 90% gm factory parts and pretty inexpensive
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03-06-2016, 09:13 PM
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I'm working with a company that is making a spacer to bolt on an ls7 intake manifold on the LT1. Install the ls7 factory fuel rail with some ls9 injectors running to secondary pump controlled by an AEM box ($400 bucks) setup the pulse width to come on during map (boost only) and increase PW as map pressure increases..
Under normal closed loop control factory fueling will ale care if everything and in boost the factory Ls setup kicks in.. This would be super reliable since it basically uses 90% gm factory parts and pretty inexpensive
Under normal closed loop control factory fueling will ale care if everything and in boost the factory Ls setup kicks in.. This would be super reliable since it basically uses 90% gm factory parts and pretty inexpensive
03-06-2016, 09:25 PM
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Naw... Got the LT4 blower on it at the moment
If I was planning on more than 700rwhp with a centri setup I would go this route!!
Haven't seen anyone do this on a DI setup yet but I've seen injector driver boxes used on lsx stuff before with success... I don't like the idea of over drive cam lobes since I think in time they will descrease the life of the
Hpfp
Higgs I know you have the custom fuel system from the Arizona shop, and if I'm not mistaken they "y" into the fuel line before the HPFP?? This eliminates having "fuel pump" issues, but the injectors and HPFP are still limited...
If a system like this could be ran to a rail with injectors, the pumps become the limiting factory again then, but your talking 1200+rwhp most likely or more depending on components or fuel used...
Powertrain control solutions has a box called the PCS XFC that's an injector driver.. Ligenfelter has used it in conjunction with a stock lsx ECU, should be the same as an ltx setup as well.
I think it would be cool to have a 102 fast ls7 intake on top of an LT1/4
If I was planning on more than 700rwhp with a centri setup I would go this route!!
Haven't seen anyone do this on a DI setup yet but I've seen injector driver boxes used on lsx stuff before with success... I don't like the idea of over drive cam lobes since I think in time they will descrease the life of the
Hpfp
Higgs I know you have the custom fuel system from the Arizona shop, and if I'm not mistaken they "y" into the fuel line before the HPFP?? This eliminates having "fuel pump" issues, but the injectors and HPFP are still limited...
If a system like this could be ran to a rail with injectors, the pumps become the limiting factory again then, but your talking 1200+rwhp most likely or more depending on components or fuel used...
Powertrain control solutions has a box called the PCS XFC that's an injector driver.. Ligenfelter has used it in conjunction with a stock lsx ECU, should be the same as an ltx setup as well.
I think it would be cool to have a 102 fast ls7 intake on top of an LT1/4
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03-06-2016, 09:43 PM
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Since I'm PD blower and pretty much my setup is about maxed out (which im currently content with haha) I don't plan to mess with a secondary pump/injector setup..
However I find all of this interesting and always looking for possible solutions for fueling..
However I find all of this interesting and always looking for possible solutions for fueling..
03-06-2016, 10:27 PM
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Naw... Got the LT4 blower on it at the moment
If I was planning on more than 700rwhp with a centri setup I would go this route!!
Haven't seen anyone do this on a DI setup yet but I've seen injector driver boxes used on lsx stuff before with success... I don't like the idea of over drive cam lobes since I think in time they will descrease the life of the
Hpfp
Higgs I know you have the custom fuel system from the Arizona shop, and if I'm not mistaken they "y" into the fuel line before the HPFP?? This eliminates having "fuel pump" issues, but the injectors and HPFP are still limited...
If a system like this could be ran to a rail with injectors, the pumps become the limiting factory again then, but your talking 1200+rwhp most likely or more depending on components or fuel used...
Powertrain control solutions has a box called the PCS XFC that's an injector driver.. Ligenfelter has used it in conjunction with a stock lsx ECU, should be the same as an ltx setup as well.
I think it would be cool to have a 102 fast ls7 intake on top of an LT1/4
If I was planning on more than 700rwhp with a centri setup I would go this route!!
Haven't seen anyone do this on a DI setup yet but I've seen injector driver boxes used on lsx stuff before with success... I don't like the idea of over drive cam lobes since I think in time they will descrease the life of the
Hpfp
Higgs I know you have the custom fuel system from the Arizona shop, and if I'm not mistaken they "y" into the fuel line before the HPFP?? This eliminates having "fuel pump" issues, but the injectors and HPFP are still limited...
If a system like this could be ran to a rail with injectors, the pumps become the limiting factory again then, but your talking 1200+rwhp most likely or more depending on components or fuel used...
Powertrain control solutions has a box called the PCS XFC that's an injector driver.. Ligenfelter has used it in conjunction with a stock lsx ECU, should be the same as an ltx setup as well.
I think it would be cool to have a 102 fast ls7 intake on top of an LT1/4
We ran out of fuel at 1291rwhp on my car with DI (44% cam lobe, Z06 pump, secondary low pressure pump and 3 nozzles of meth) It's currently getting port injection and a Haltech ECU wired in to control it. Should be running this week.
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03-06-2016, 11:06 PM
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a port system would either replace needing meth or supplement it.....as you noted, 600rwhp for each is probably right, and judging by motohead running out with lots of meth at 1241, pretty close.
03-07-2016, 12:54 AM
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Just curious what size nozzles? I'm assuming your close to 50gph between the 3 lol
03-07-2016, 12:55 AM
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Correct, it runs to the ethanol sensor and Y into the fuel line right before the HPFP. ethanol sensor not really needed at this point since there is no way to support E85 at the moment with a good amount of power....
a port system would either replace needing meth or supplement it.....as you noted, 600rwhp for each is probably right, and judging by motohead running out with lots of meth at 1241, pretty close.
a port system would either replace needing meth or supplement it.....as you noted, 600rwhp for each is probably right, and judging by motohead running out with lots of meth at 1241, pretty close.