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So I've been gathering data from various dyno sheets and various kits (tried to stick to dynojet). These are for "base kit only" vehicles with nothing else done and a dyno tune. I also included stock c7 and stock c7z numbers. Instead of trying to figure out which kit makes most power, you can see their averages here.*
Notes:
-Most kits peak at the same 560-580 rwhp include the c7z.
-For the stingray kits: The power curves are almost identical with the si trim just slightly below at 2500-4500 rpm.
-When comparing to c7z, you can really see the large amount of extra power under the curve all the way to 5500 rpm.
-I thought maybe a stock car would hang on until 2500 or 3000 but it's not even close.
-Pretty much every kit is the same, and the differences are minor from a base kit (obviously all act differently after adding more power). However don't expect to beat C7Zs out the hole. At 5000 rpm to 6500 rpm where high speed races happen, it is anyones race between these kits.
If anyone wants I can post the spreadsheet (also have c6z HCI, mclaren 650s, and soon will have more random cars with similar power).
*disclaimer: this isn't official or perfect but just an average of many many charts I gathered and manually input for each style of FI
Last edited by BrunoTheMellow; 11-21-2016 at 11:34 PM.
Cool Chart ....always good to know the options.
Besides the assumption of "base kit only", it is also assumed that the cars are manuals not autos?
Another relevant line would be the Z06 with a "base" procharger kit....the P1. According to procharger gains of 100+hp are do-able with a 6 hour install, canned tune, and 100% reversible. I bring it up because used Z06's are fairly cheap when compared to a new GS + supercharger and the end result is better than a GS+SC because Z06 has the forged motor and more fuel capability. Removing that heat pump from the top of the Z06 also removes its major weakness.
I think procharger has been able to do this because they are a bigger company with a larger R&D budget, but I hope ECS and A&A can catch up.
There's gonna be a large SC market here as prices on used "overheating" Z06's drop day by day. I know I want one.
And not to put you to work but you may want to (in time) develop a few iterations of the chart....like
1. the original chart
2. Base kit + meth (cuz meth is common with SCs)
3. Base kit + Meth + LTHeaders
Thanks for a good decision tool when spending 70K+ on a toy.
Cool Chart ....always good to know the options.
Besides the assumption of "base kit only", it is also assumed that the cars are manuals not autos?
Another relevant line would be the Z06 with a "base" procharger kit....the P1. According to procharger gains of 100+hp are do-able with a 6 hour install, canned tune, and 100% reversible. I bring it up because used Z06's are fairly cheap when compared to a new GS + supercharger and the end result is better than a GS+SC because Z06 has the forged motor and more fuel capability. Removing that heat pump from the top of the Z06 also removes its major weakness.
I think procharger has been able to do this because they are a bigger company with a larger R&D budget, but I hope ECS and A&A can catch up.
There's gonna be a large SC market here as prices on used "overheating" Z06's drop day by day. I know I want one.
And not to put you to work but you may want to (in time) develop a few iterations of the chart....like
1. the original chart
2. Base kit + meth (cuz meth is common with SCs)
3. Base kit + Meth + LTHeaders
Thanks for a good decision tool when spending 70K+ on a toy.
No one puts a P1SC on a z06. It's always F1A, F1R, F1X. Where are you finding cheap c7 z06s?
I plan on adding a lot more iterations to it. This is just the beginning, when the chart has all of the lines I've plotted its nearly useless but I can hide different vehicles to compare. It's quite interesting to compare to something like an 8000 rpm huracan, or 650S that makes the same power but much later.
Cool Chart ....always good to know the options.
Besides the assumption of "base kit only", it is also assumed that the cars are manuals not autos?
Another relevant line would be the Z06 with a "base" procharger kit....the P1. According to procharger gains of 100+hp are do-able with a 6 hour install, canned tune, and 100% reversible. I bring it up because used Z06's are fairly cheap when compared to a new GS + supercharger and the end result is better than a GS+SC because Z06 has the forged motor and more fuel capability. Removing that heat pump from the top of the Z06 also removes its major weakness.
I think procharger has been able to do this because they are a bigger company with a larger R&D budget, but I hope ECS and A&A can catch up.
There's gonna be a large SC market here as prices on used "overheating" Z06's drop day by day. I know I want one.
And not to put you to work but you may want to (in time) develop a few iterations of the chart....like
1. the original chart
2. Base kit + meth (cuz meth is common with SCs)
3. Base kit + Meth + LTHeaders
Thanks for a good decision tool when spending 70K+ on a toy.
Just an FYI, we have a kit finalized for the C7Z, we are just working out a cost effective intake at the moment.
Bruno, thanks for taking the time to do this, that's a lot of time and effort. I must admit I am happy to see that our claims of "the highest TQ of any centrifugal kit on the market" have been met by your graph. If you need/want graphs of other combo's, meth headers etc feel free to PM me.
Bruno, thanks for taking the time to do this, that's a lot of time and effort. I must admit I am happy to see that our claims of "the highest TQ of any centrifugal kit on the market" have been met by your graph. If you need/want graphs of other combo's, meth headers etc feel free to PM me.
Further reinforcing how happy I am I went with ECS.
No one puts a P1SC on a z06. It's always F1A, F1R, F1X. Where are you finding cheap c7 z06s?
I plan on adding a lot more iterations to it. This is just the beginning, when the chart has all of the lines I've plotted its nearly useless but I can hide different vehicles to compare. It's quite interesting to compare to something like an 8000 rpm huracan, or 650S that makes the same power but much later.
I had mentioned the P1 cuz your assumption was a "base kit" and I believe that is procharger's base kit. And cheap Z06s are everywhere....sub 10K mile cars in the mid to low 60's is cheap when compared to the alternatives. I've seen Z07 cars for 70.
Yeah ...... too many lines lessens your analytical ability....I meant different charts per scenario.
Further reinforcing how happy I am I went with A&A.
LOL I had to. In all honesty A&A or ECS you cant go wrong. I'm in CA so it was a no brainer but to go with the A&A kit. With that said when I have questions or concerns. ECS has been there for me as well.
Further reinforcing how happy I am I went with A&A.
LOL I had to. In all honesty A&A or ECS you cant go wrong. I'm in CA so it was a no brainer but to go with the A&A kit. With that said when I have questions or concerns. ECS has been there for me as well.
Alright this is a fun one. I know everyone has this feeling: "man I wonder if my car can beat that lambo" or "how the heck did that mustang just beat me":
Love the information! Thanks for posting. Am I reading this right and the A&A kit is the lowest in hp and torque? I am color blind and having trouble with some of the colors LOL.
Love the information! Thanks for posting. Am I reading this right and the A&A kit is the lowest in hp and torque? I am color blind and having trouble with some of the colors LOL.
Ours is set up as an emissions legal, low boost kit. Add 93 Octane (that's a BIG plus right there) , Meth and a little boost and it's up in the 700 range.
My Z06 makes over 800 RWHP with a baby cam, meth and a YSi, so the kit is quite capable.
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I've kept toying with charts and came up with this comparison since my brother owns a 2015 mustang GT and is thinking of putting a whipple on it. base whipple kit 5.0 (with exhaust) vs base procharger kit c7 (nothing else). The similarity in almost unbelievable. The exhaust basically adds the 30 hp/tq the mustang was missing from the stock corvette. Very impressive numbers out of those 5.0s. Don't underestimate the power these new 5.0s can make. Most supercharged ones are actually in the high 600 rwhp to low 700 rwhp range with minimal supportive mods. Definitely much more power friendly than an LT1.
Last edited by BrunoTheMellow; 12-06-2016 at 01:46 PM.
11-21-2016, 11:29 PM
I made a Dyno Chart Comparison for SC kits
