Cordes Performance Racing

I'm sure most of you have seen FIC's thread announcing the release of their 30% larger than lt4 injectors, we were one of the first to test these and helped develop the data needed to properly tune them. Through rigorous testing on vehicles we have a solid foundation on we have been able to help you the end user populate the needed tables to put these in and get them running right away! This service is offered only with purchase of the injectors through us for obvious reasons. We have tested these on e85 and on the gas scale to ensure 100% proper functioning and they flow the advertised amount. Combine these with the industry standard CPR low side fuel system for the ultimate in fueling solution for these cars. We have these in stock and ready to rock and are the only place that offers tuning support for these injectors to the end user.


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Drew27

Joe,


what power level will these mods support for 93 and e85?


Fic injectors
lpe hpfp
38% fuel cam lobe
cordes low side fuel system


Thanks

Cordes Performance Racing

no meth? auto or manual? blower or turbo car?

BooSSted

How does this work , being octane dependant ?

For the sake of simplicity :
93 octane
No meth
Some say the stock fuel system is good to 670-700 whp.

So adding a 38% lobe, plus 30% injectors , if not octane limited (93) would this not be enough fuel to push 800-850 ? E85 isnt an option for many, so I guess at what point will alternate means be necessary for octane supplement with pump 93 maxed out?

Unreal

38% lobe and 30% injectors will support more than low side can. You will run out of octane and low side before injector in that case.

BooSSted

At what levels will low side fp begin to fade?

Cordes Performance Racing

no meth you can do easily 900 rwhp with it, but you'll be octane limited.

our low side will support what these can do, already maxed these out on e85 and our low side is still hanging in there, it's losing a few psi but the high side stays up so it's good. I could do the c6 gas tank conversion but screw that haha.

BooSSted

So with the cam lobe and injectors 900 would be obtainable / octane limited? Or was your comment in regards to the two plus low side support ?

Cordes Performance Racing

for 900 rwhp you'll be octane limited so you'll need race gas or meth to hit it. You will need our low side system to support that too.

Drew27

my bad...

f1x A8
with above mods..

I do have a dual meth on it but don't want to be dpendent on it

Cordes Performance Racing

anytime you're spraying meth the tune has to be adjusted for the fueling. on pump/meth these injectors will support everything that f1x could ever do.

Earl H

Not knocking any advancements in the DI fueling space. I applaud ANY advancements in a market that sorely needs development! If I look at your list:

FIC Injecors: $3,500
LPE HPFP: $1,500
38% Cam Change: $2,000 Incl labor, I am hearing more so could be short
Low Side Fuel System: $1,800
Total: $8,800

Note: this doesn't incl install on components other than the cam.

So we are close to $9K and I still have to run meth to get to 900rwhp whether its e85 (due to system capacity) or 93 octane gas (octane limits). Again, not crapping on this thread. I think any discussion is good discussion if the right intentions are there. I AM actively looking to do a Turbo setup on my 17 Z, so not just lurking...

Joe,

You guys were pioneers and 1st to offer a low side setup. Whats needed/cost to do a DI/Piggyback port injection setup on e85 that will support over 1,000rwhp? There are a few shops doing them.

Unreal

As much or more money, and complexity.

Still need low side to support it, need injectors, manifold, ecu, wiring, tuning, etc.

I'm not sure you need the LPE HPFP to hit 900 on e85. Injectors and cam lobe with enough low side should be plenty.

Joe, I was talking about the 30% injectors and 30% lobe would probably exceed the factory low side before you ran out of injector.

Earl H

In the interest of full disclosure. I have quotes for a port injection piggyback solution installed in house from a couple of well know shops for about the same money and as far as complexity goes...well its more in the integration and I think thats where each shop adds value. You are buying a low side to feed the low pressure injectors, injectors, standalone/piggyback controller and misc odds and ends. Again, not to derail the thread, but just generating fact based information in comparing options (not shops). I wanted to get Joe's take on a comparable port injection/piggyback system.

Onefst2004

WHY:. $437.00 each what are they gold plated. I heard of mark ups but really 437.00 each
JUST SAYING

Unreal

Then go buy the competing ones.

Onefst2004

Quess what you answered my question thanks

Unreal

First to market can charge a premium until competition shows up. If your choice is expensive or nothing at all, it isn't much of a choice. I'm sure DI injector prices will come down over the next 2-5 years but right now the aftermarket ones are new, have a lot of R&D to recoop, and are the only players around, so you pay to play.

Onefst2004

I would rather have nothing then to pay 473.00 for an 200.00 if that injector. good luck.

Cordes Performance Racing

they are much more than a $200/ea when you factor cost into the injector before you even touch them. DI stuff has always been expensive, it's the same as diesel.