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Old 11-23-2017, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CI GS
Holy mother of god, that double-barrelled blower looks fukin Gangster!
What a monster.
And it’s still gaining power through 7,000 RPM! Where’s all those centri-centric folks that say PD blowers run out of breath at high rpm??
That's a very generic statement! The GT500 guys have been making Massive power for years using Whipples and KBs. You just need to size the units right! It's like sticking a tiny turbo on there and expecting massive power, the turbo and only move so much air!

The other thing is getting the air to the blower (well the rotors). The above solution is brilliant!
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Just to let you guys know....there are many Harrop 2650's all over the USA. I know of 4 cars personally. There are shops with Harrops in stock.

Best dyno numbers so far....that I know of.....1,100 FWHP on a 427ci at SAM.....

Another stock LS3 guy in my town made 730 RWHP on 11psi.

Another car in Cali made 800+ RWHP but needed more pulley......"The Garage" is the name of the shop. Waiting on new pulleys to go max effort.

At only $4,950 for the Harrop 2650 SC'er......what a smokin deal. EDIT: That price is for the updated Eaton 2650 internal parts so you can upgrade a TVS2300 case. Which gives you a new 2650 SC'er.......

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Are any of these on corvettes? It would be ace to see one of these on a corvette (any platform)!

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Originally Posted by chuntington101
Are any of these on corvettes? It would be ace to see one of these on a corvette (any platform)!
Not yet. New Camaros, 98-02 FBody, engine dynos, and one is a GTO. But there are a lot of other projects in the USA going on as we speak.

For $4,950.....there will be hundreds of them in the next 6 months rolling around everywhere.

My friend in Miami is buying one for his 2018 Vette....so maybe he'll be the first Harrop Vette. He only wants 900 RWHP, so that will be a piece of cake.

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Where are you seeing these kits being sold for $4,950?
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Originally Posted by ysb02
Where are you seeing these kits being sold for $4,950?
Well, I just got an email back from the company selling them for $4,950.

They are selling the 2650 internal parts upgrade kit that goes into the TVS2300 case. So when its done you will have the equivalent of the Harrop 2650 SC'er. But actually might be better because the TVS2300 case and air inlet snout can be ported.....the Harrop case and inlet cannot really be ported.
It was a little confusing at first....
LSX Performance Parts......
http://www.lsxperformanceparts.com.a...r-upgrade-kit/

Harrop in Aussie will deliver you a brand new Harrop 2650 with a bunch of extra little parts for $6,500. Or you can purchase the Harrop 2650 from a handful of shops in the USA for the same $6,500.

Fountain Race Engines in Tampa is where I'll probably get mine. I'm just waiting to see if a couple cars in the next 2 weeks or so can make over 1,000 RWHP.......

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I was looking at them for my cts-v which I assume would need a new housing. Hopefully the american sc makers step up soon.

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They are selling the 2650 internal parts upgrade kit that goes into the TVS2300 case.
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Originally Posted by ysb02
I was looking at them for my cts-v which I assume would need a new housing. Hopefully the american sc makers step up soon.
I have a feeling that Edelbrock and Magnuson will charge much more than Harrop does. I find it hard to swallow that these two American companies will let us have them for less than $6,500.

But who knows, maybe they'll surprise us.

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Originally Posted by ysb02
Where are you seeing these kits being sold for $4,950?
This is actually a price for a brand new Harrop 2650 SC'er unit. It just fits onto the FDFI2300 manifold.

So if you have an FDFI2300 SC'er....and you want to upgrade to the 2650.......all you do is unbolt the 2300 unit and put the 2650 onto the existing manifold.

Thats what costs $4,950.

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Originally Posted by ysb02
I was looking at them for my cts-v which I assume would need a new housing. Hopefully the american sc makers step up soon.
V2 or V3?

Originally Posted by 400ci94mm
I have a feeling that Edelbrock and Magnuson will charge much more than Harrop does. I find it hard to swallow that these two American companies will let us have them for less than $6,500.

But who knows, maybe they'll surprise us.

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I'm very curious on how fair the Magnuson and Edelbrock 2650 will be priced as well. Harrop is seemingly going to have a lower price because their superchargers are only for the GEN3/GEN4 LS engines, they do not offer anything for the GEN5 LT engines yet. Holden's performance line HSV ceased production in Dec. 2017, and they were still using the LS engines up until that point. So until GM steps up their presence in Australia I doubt we will see many after market parts for the LT's produced over there.

Originally Posted by 400ci94mm
Well, I just got an email back from the company selling them for $4,950.

They are selling the 2650 internal parts upgrade kit that goes into the TVS2300 case. So when its done you will have the equivalent of the Harrop 2650 SC'er. But actually might be better because the TVS2300 case and air inlet snout can be ported.....the Harrop case and inlet cannot really be ported.
It was a little confusing at first....
LSX Performance Parts......
http://www.lsxperformanceparts.com.a...r-upgrade-kit/

Harrop in Aussie will deliver you a brand new Harrop 2650 with a bunch of extra little parts for $6,500. Or you can purchase the Harrop 2650 from a handful of shops in the USA for the same $6,500.

Fountain Race Engines in Tampa is where I'll probably get mine. I'm just waiting to see if a couple cars in the next 2 weeks or so can make over 1,000 RWHP.......

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You will have to very cautious trying to upgrade rotor packs in the 2300 case. I do not think the Magnuson 2300 case will accommodate the 2650 rotor pack, where was not enough housing thickness where the housing required machining. Hearsay says that the E-Force 2300 case can fit the 2650 rotor pack, but I cannot confirm that.


If someone is dead set on a 2650 I would recommend just upgrading to the C7 ZR1 supercharger. The only downside is that you are required to run the ZR1 hood. I personally love the hood, but I'm sure it is very expensive. If you want big power out of a PD blower LT4 and you do not want to buy a hood just buy a Whipple 2.9L.
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Originally Posted by 400ci94mm
Just to let you guys know....there are many Harrop 2650's all over the USA. I know of 4 cars personally. There are shops with Harrops in stock.

Best dyno numbers so far....that I know of.....1,100 FWHP on a 427ci at SAM.....

Another stock LS3 guy in my town made 730 RWHP on 11psi.

Another car in Cali made 800+ RWHP but needed more pulley......"The Garage" is the name of the shop. Waiting on new pulleys to go max effort.

At only $4,950 for the Harrop 2650 SC'er......what a smokin deal. EDIT: That price is for the updated Eaton 2650 internal parts so you can upgrade a TVS2300 case. Which gives you a new 2650 SC'er.......

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If the 2650 fits in the 2300 case why all the hassle and huge hood from GM?
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Originally Posted by Eddie @ WEAPON-X
V2 or V3?
V2 currently, not holding my breathe since I know the V3s will get first crack at it.
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Originally Posted by ysb02
V2 currently, not holding my breathe since I know the V3s will get first crack at it.
Harrop's 2650 should be ready for the LSA's relatively soon. I would not be surprised if there are a few running around in Australia already. The 2650 kit for the LSA list for $9400 on their website.

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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
If the 2650 fits in the 2300 case why all the hassle and huge hood from GM?
This would be my question too?
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The ZR1 hood is not going to fit the c7z without using the ZR1 bumper cover and fenders. The lines are different where the hood and number meet...
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Originally Posted by JHEBERT
The ZR1 hood is not going to fit the c7z without using the ZR1 bumper cover and fenders. The lines are different where the hood and number meet...
Yep! I noticed at the bash the front end between hood and bunker made more of a “V” shape and on the z06 and stingray it’s more straight across
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Originally Posted by Eddie @ WEAPON-X
Harrop's 2650 should be ready for the LSA's relatively soon. I would not be surprised if there are a few running around in Australia already. The 2650 kit for the LSA list for $9400 on their website.
Time to temp a C6 customer into one?...
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I'm just now ordering another 2300 from Eddie! Like the stock Z06 hood and want to keep it. Very happy with the 2300 on my M7. FAR and away better than the stock 1.7
The 800 hp level is easy and you still can grow but I'm happy at 800.
Which is about the stock fueling limit.
Tune time has the 2300 running 9's w/ the A8. Plenty good for me.
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Any updates from anyone here?
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Originally Posted by sales @ WXM
We have a Fuel Line Pressure kit with a Flex sensor we are running on Ben's compound boosted '17 ZL1 with direct/port injection, if you would be interested in one of those? The standard one is rated for 1000-1200rwhp and our upgrade version is rated for 2000rwhp. (LOL Because there is no such thing as overkill.)

What controller are you guys using for the port injection? Is it Flex capable?
They are using the MAF Fusion controller for the dual MAF sensors and the auxiliary injector control.
www.maf-fusion.com


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