Procharger w/helical gears, or Edelbrock blower?
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Procharger w/helical gears, or Edelbrock blower?
2016 Stingray non-Z51, regular stock exhaust (3 inch tips), showroom stock. Primarily daily driver, will never 'track' the car. I've heard that the centrifugal blowers have a 'whistle' at all times, especially at idle and light throttle, so I'm leaning towards the roots style (e.g. Edelbrock) which (presumeably) does not whistle. Some Utube videos confirm P1 the whistle, but never ear witnessed a P1 in person. Did checkout an F1 and the sound of 'broken glass' was so loud, it could have been masking the whistle.
As a point of reference, I put 500 miles on a 2016 Z06 and loved it. Plenty of power, and sound was totally acceptable,like a non-supercharged engine. Does a P1 procharger whistle? Comments?
As a point of reference, I put 500 miles on a 2016 Z06 and loved it. Plenty of power, and sound was totally acceptable,like a non-supercharged engine. Does a P1 procharger whistle? Comments?
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2016 Stingray non-Z51, regular stock exhaust (3 inch tips), showroom stock. Primarily daily driver, will never 'track' the car. I've heard that the centrifugal blowers have a 'whistle' at all times, especially at idle and light throttle, so I'm leaning towards the roots style (e.g. Edelbrock) which (presumeably) does not whistle. Some Utube videos confirm P1 the whistle, but never ear witnessed a P1 in person. Did checkout an F1 and the sound of 'broken glass' was so loud, it could have been masking the whistle.
As a point of reference, I put 500 miles on a 2016 Z06 and loved it. Plenty of power, and sound was totally acceptable,like a non-supercharged engine. Does a P1 procharger whistle? Comments?
As a point of reference, I put 500 miles on a 2016 Z06 and loved it. Plenty of power, and sound was totally acceptable,like a non-supercharged engine. Does a P1 procharger whistle? Comments?
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The last 3 set ups I have went with A/A due to the customer service. You will not get any better than Andy shop on this after the sale. He will talk to you even on the weekend phone rings over to his cell. Robert
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To me on a top mount blower ALL that TQ & HP is all in at per say no more than 2400 RPM. I just didn't like paddling the car all that much off of idle. Now if you like red light to red light racing & showing the women a burn out that is the way to go. But for that reason PLUS high IAT if you go down the track more than 2 r 3 time max the car will be pulling timing like crazy from this. Robert
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Yes but I got the loud BOV if you get the quite one it will not be bad at all. The quite one has the filter on it. In a corvette this is the only way to go unless you have the money to go turbo are turbo's on the car.
To me on a top mount blower ALL that TQ & HP is all in at per say no more than 2400 RPM. I just didn't like paddling the car all that much off of idle. Now if you like red light to red light racing & showing the women a burn out that is the way to go. But for that reason PLUS high IAT if you go down the track more than 2 r 3 time max the car will be pulling timing like crazy from this. Robert
To me on a top mount blower ALL that TQ & HP is all in at per say no more than 2400 RPM. I just didn't like paddling the car all that much off of idle. Now if you like red light to red light racing & showing the women a burn out that is the way to go. But for that reason PLUS high IAT if you go down the track more than 2 r 3 time max the car will be pulling timing like crazy from this. Robert
The only centrifugal blower I've witnessed was a procharger F1. Whenever the engine was running, it sounded like the engine was smashing beer bottles to pieces under the hood, a constant din of glass breaking. Aside from the whistling noise, does your A/A make any other noises?
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You need a Maggie 2300 - quiet, efficient, and with the latest intercooler upgrades they have no IAT issues. Great setup for street use with the base kit at 550RWHP and capability to grow up to 850-900 RWHP.
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Glad the Maggie 2300 got the IAT set up worked out on the blower.
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Both I have had on my c5 now on the c7 I have the A/A TI head unit & love it. I would not have a root blower on a c7 at all they just don't seem to work at good on these cars. Plus seems to have a higher IAT temps on these cars also.
The last 3 set ups I have went with A/A due to the customer service. You will not get any better than Andy shop on this after the sale. He will talk to you even on the weekend phone rings over to his cell. Robert
The last 3 set ups I have went with A/A due to the customer service. You will not get any better than Andy shop on this after the sale. He will talk to you even on the weekend phone rings over to his cell. Robert
I had 3 centri set-ups and would not go back I like the Eaton units. No problems with IAT's. Easier power in my book! Don't like to have to worry about having Meth and the leaks under my hood.
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I am only working here from my first set up with a kenne bell & an ex vendor in here that didn't know the truth if it hit him in the face. Robert
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Both Edelbrock and Maggie post HP numbers that are less than a stock Z06 which uses a smaller capacity tvs 1700. Why does the smaller blower on a Z06 (LT4) produce more power than the larger blower on a stingray LT1? Is the difference purely in the engine? Or is there a way to get the same HP from the TVS2300/LT1 as the Z06/LT4?
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Both Edelbrock and Maggie post HP numbers that are less than a stock Z06 which uses a smaller capacity tvs 1700. Why does the smaller blower on a Z06 (LT4) produce more power than the larger blower on a stingray LT1? Is the difference purely in the engine? Or is there a way to get the same HP from the TVS2300/LT1 as the Z06/LT4?
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2016 Stingray non-Z51, regular stock exhaust (3 inch tips), showroom stock. Primarily daily driver, will never 'track' the car. I've heard that the centrifugal blowers have a 'whistle' at all times, especially at idle and light throttle, so I'm leaning towards the roots style (e.g. Edelbrock) which (presumeably) does not whistle. Some Utube videos confirm P1 the whistle, but never ear witnessed a P1 in person. Did checkout an F1 and the sound of 'broken glass' was so loud, it could have been masking the whistle.
As a point of reference, I put 500 miles on a 2016 Z06 and loved it. Plenty of power, and sound was totally acceptable,like a non-supercharged engine. Does a P1 procharger whistle? Comments?
As a point of reference, I put 500 miles on a 2016 Z06 and loved it. Plenty of power, and sound was totally acceptable,like a non-supercharged engine. Does a P1 procharger whistle? Comments?
My opinion is find someone near you that has a P1 and go for a ride
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here is a clip of my procharger p1x.
https://youtu.be/y0gFq-CaJN0
https://youtu.be/y0gFq-CaJN0
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I have a base A8, 15 with a P1 all else stock (for now). Just washed the car two hours ago and left it running for a few minutes. The P1 is pretty quiet as I could barely hear the P1. So, at a stop light in gear you can’t tell it’s there with other cars surrounding you. My standard BOV is just a little bit quiet for me.
My opinion is find someone near you that has a P1 and go for a ride
My opinion is find someone near you that has a P1 and go for a ride
2. Do you have a totally stock exhaust, and is it the 'performance' exhaust w/4 inch tips?
3. Are BOVs interchangeable between various manufactures? e.g. Could you install the quiet BOV from A/A onto a Procharger P1?
Last edited by roller11; 11-21-2017 at 11:07 PM.
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Both Edelbrock and Maggie post HP numbers that are less than a stock Z06 which uses a smaller capacity tvs 1700. Why does the smaller blower on a Z06 (LT4) produce more power than the larger blower on a stingray LT1? Is the difference purely in the engine? Or is there a way to get the same HP from the TVS2300/LT1 as the Z06/LT4?
Last time we were at the track there were a few A8 (auto) C7 Z06s, none of which could hang with our TVS2300 Z51 C7 A8.