Ysi vs f1-a
04-02-2018, 09:46 PM
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Ysi vs f1-a
Can a shop provide some insight as to why use one or the other. The A&A kit with a YSI headunit seems like the best bang for your buck, but I’ve noticed lately the high HP C7 builds are running prochargers. What are the pros and cons? Does one out perform the other.
As an example let’s say forged bottom end, Cam, ported heads, headers and Upgraded fuel system w/ meth which would you go with and why?
As an example let’s say forged bottom end, Cam, ported heads, headers and Upgraded fuel system w/ meth which would you go with and why?
04-05-2018, 09:14 AM
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Le Mans Master
The reason most choose Procharger is because their units are self contained. The ysi and f1a are going to yield the same results. **** a ysi-b is only like 50cfm short of a f1x. The only difference is you’re going to need to get oil from the pan to the ysi.
I make 1100 wheel with a novi 2200x, which is the ysi-b.
I make 1100 wheel with a novi 2200x, which is the ysi-b.
04-05-2018, 09:55 AM
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Melting Slicks
Nano option from Vortech will also give you a few more ponies.
04-05-2018, 11:34 AM
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I didn’t know the YSI wasn’t self contained, this the kind of insight I’m looking for. Thanks! What about intercoolers? Do they flow about the same or is there variance in input boost vs output in High HP builds?
The reason most choose Procharger is because their units are self contained. The ysi and f1a are going to yield the same results. **** a ysi-b is only like 50cfm short of a f1x. The only difference is you’re going to need to get oil from the pan to the ysi.
I make 1100 wheel with a novi 2200x, which is the ysi-b.
I make 1100 wheel with a novi 2200x, which is the ysi-b.
04-05-2018, 01:03 PM
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Former Vendor
We will have a very good comparison for the Ysi vs F-1A-94 C7 Z crowd.
We have 4 cars here now getting the Procharger kits on them and 1 getting a A&A z06 YSI kit.
We have 4 cars here now getting the Procharger kits on them and 1 getting a A&A z06 YSI kit.
04-05-2018, 02:57 PM
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04-08-2018, 01:45 PM
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Considering ECS pulls more torque than Procharger I went with ECS. Also LMR and others use the ECS on there packages only.
Theres probably a reason they only use ECS.
But I would not get anything besides a ECS or Procharger IMO. Dont cheap out on an A&A when the good **** is a little more.
Theres probably a reason they only use ECS.
But I would not get anything besides a ECS or Procharger IMO. Dont cheap out on an A&A when the good **** is a little more.
04-09-2018, 10:06 AM
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Melting Slicks
Considering ECS pulls more torque than Procharger I went with ECS. Also LMR and others use the ECS on there packages only.
Theres probably a reason they only use ECS.
But I would not get anything besides a ECS or Procharger IMO. Dont cheap out on an A&A when the good **** is a little more.
Theres probably a reason they only use ECS.
But I would not get anything besides a ECS or Procharger IMO. Dont cheap out on an A&A when the good **** is a little more.
04-09-2018, 11:03 AM
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Considering a few years ago when I was building my car, not very many people said anything about the A&A at all. Also back then a few years ago I saw the kit several places for only around $4100. Dunno why they decided to raise the price but considering you could buy them for around 4k a few years ago is why it is "cheap". That also set off a red light to me. Why was it so much cheaper?
04-09-2018, 12:36 PM
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Melting Slicks
Considering a few years ago when I was building my car, not very many people said anything about the A&A at all. Also back then a few years ago I saw the kit several places for only around $4100. Dunno why they decided to raise the price but considering you could buy them for around 4k a few years ago is why it is "cheap". That also set off a red light to me. Why was it so much cheaper?
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04-09-2018, 12:48 PM
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The fact is : It use to be over 1000$ cheaper than the ECS KIT when I was looking at them.
So therefor its cheap compared to the ECS Kit.
What you dont understand about that?
Im also a little confused on your experience with both systems when you do not even own a C7?
I also said IMO which means in my opinion, dunno why you are getting so e-thug on me on a public forum. Keyboard warrior much?
Hrmm??
Its a public forum I can post my opinion just as much as you and not get attacked when I speak the truth. If you want to steer someone down a uncommon supercharger then thats kinda fucked up on your part.
Most people roll Procharger or ECS and thats all the facts that is needed.
04-09-2018, 02:33 PM
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Le Mans Master
A&A kits are far from "cheap"... On the contrary they have had the best bracket design for the C5/C6 kits for the last 6-7 years...
And a YSI will certainly make more power to the wheels then a F1A....it would likely be close to an F1A-94.
Most shops install procharger kits because they are MUCH easier to install....and still running the hokey tensioner/adjuster they have always had, and has always slipped.
The YSI takes much less power to run then a F1R, F1A-94 or F1x, that's more power to your tires with less boost, less strain on the motor/crankshaft/bearings. For 1k rwhp or less, I'd stick with the YSI. Not to mention they are FAR more reliable then the new F1 series blowers.
And a YSI will certainly make more power to the wheels then a F1A....it would likely be close to an F1A-94.
Most shops install procharger kits because they are MUCH easier to install....and still running the hokey tensioner/adjuster they have always had, and has always slipped.
The YSI takes much less power to run then a F1R, F1A-94 or F1x, that's more power to your tires with less boost, less strain on the motor/crankshaft/bearings. For 1k rwhp or less, I'd stick with the YSI. Not to mention they are FAR more reliable then the new F1 series blowers.
Last edited by ajrothm; 04-09-2018 at 02:34 PM.
04-09-2018, 04:54 PM
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Melting Slicks
The fact is : It use to be over 1000$ cheaper than the ECS KIT when I was looking at them.
So therefor its cheap compared to the ECS Kit.
What you dont understand about that?
Im also a little confused on your experience with both systems when you do not even own a C7?
I also said IMO which means in my opinion, dunno why you are getting so e-thug on me on a public forum. Keyboard warrior much?
Hrmm??
Its a public forum I can post my opinion just as much as you and not get attacked when I speak the truth. If you want to steer someone down a uncommon supercharger then thats kinda fucked up on your part.
Most people roll Procharger or ECS and thats all the facts that is needed.
So therefor its cheap compared to the ECS Kit.
What you dont understand about that?
Im also a little confused on your experience with both systems when you do not even own a C7?
I also said IMO which means in my opinion, dunno why you are getting so e-thug on me on a public forum. Keyboard warrior much?
Hrmm??
Its a public forum I can post my opinion just as much as you and not get attacked when I speak the truth. If you want to steer someone down a uncommon supercharger then thats kinda fucked up on your part.
Most people roll Procharger or ECS and thats all the facts that is needed.
04-09-2018, 07:13 PM
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A&A kits are far from "cheap"... On the contrary they have had the best bracket design for the C5/C6 kits for the last 6-7 years...
And a YSI will certainly make more power to the wheels then a F1A....it would likely be close to an F1A-94.
Most shops install procharger kits because they are MUCH easier to install....and still running the hokey tensioner/adjuster they have always had, and has always slipped.
The YSI takes much less power to run then a F1R, F1A-94 or F1x, that's more power to your tires with less boost, less strain on the motor/crankshaft/bearings. For 1k rwhp or less, I'd stick with the YSI. Not to mention they are FAR more reliable then the new F1 series blowers.
And a YSI will certainly make more power to the wheels then a F1A....it would likely be close to an F1A-94.
Most shops install procharger kits because they are MUCH easier to install....and still running the hokey tensioner/adjuster they have always had, and has always slipped.
The YSI takes much less power to run then a F1R, F1A-94 or F1x, that's more power to your tires with less boost, less strain on the motor/crankshaft/bearings. For 1k rwhp or less, I'd stick with the YSI. Not to mention they are FAR more reliable then the new F1 series blowers.
04-09-2018, 11:39 PM
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I can remember years and Years ago when I first came to this forum there was a guy who had a big build done on his car and the motor blew very soon afterwards. That shop declined to fix the car and guess what. Andy got on the forum and had the guy bring the car to him and he fixed it for free. So to me I wouldn't call anything from Andy cheap. Plus he has carb certified head units for Cali cars. I've heard many horror stories from several to shops on this forum but not one time I had ever heard anything but awesome from Andy. That's my 2 cents for free.
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04-10-2018, 12:37 PM
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Lol you guys are funny. A&A markets their supercharger as the "best bang for your buck" so if that does not mean its the cheapest I do not know what to tell you. I do not hear any other companies going around saying that. Its their marketing slogan...
I love how people not in having a c7 are arguing that this is the best supercharger. They all really work in the end just depends on what you want.
I also love how anyone would believe a company saying "Oh yah you can put this supercharger on your vehicle in California and your "carb legal".
TELL THAT TO A COP HAHAHAH he will write you every time for exhaust and if he saw any supercharger on your car you would be fucked. Hes not gona be like oh is this one Carb legal? NO THEY WRITE U FOR MODIFIED CAR. They dont care about the part. You would not know because once again everyones talking like they have experiance with this stuff but really just talking out ones ****.
I love how people not in having a c7 are arguing that this is the best supercharger. They all really work in the end just depends on what you want.
I also love how anyone would believe a company saying "Oh yah you can put this supercharger on your vehicle in California and your "carb legal".
TELL THAT TO A COP HAHAHAH he will write you every time for exhaust and if he saw any supercharger on your car you would be fucked. Hes not gona be like oh is this one Carb legal? NO THEY WRITE U FOR MODIFIED CAR. They dont care about the part. You would not know because once again everyones talking like they have experiance with this stuff but really just talking out ones ****.
04-10-2018, 03:43 PM
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Le Mans Master
Lol you guys are funny. A&A markets their supercharger as the "best bang for your buck" so if that does not mean its the cheapest I do not know what to tell you. I do not hear any other companies going around saying that. Its their marketing slogan...
I love how people not in having a c7 are arguing that this is the best supercharger. They all really work in the end just depends on what you want.
I also love how anyone would believe a company saying "Oh yah you can put this supercharger on your vehicle in California and your "carb legal".
TELL THAT TO A COP HAHAHAH he will write you every time for exhaust and if he saw any supercharger on your car you would be fucked. Hes not gona be like oh is this one Carb legal? NO THEY WRITE U FOR MODIFIED CAR. They dont care about the part. You would not know because once again everyones talking like they have experiance with this stuff but really just talking out ones ****.
I love how people not in having a c7 are arguing that this is the best supercharger. They all really work in the end just depends on what you want.
I also love how anyone would believe a company saying "Oh yah you can put this supercharger on your vehicle in California and your "carb legal".
TELL THAT TO A COP HAHAHAH he will write you every time for exhaust and if he saw any supercharger on your car you would be fucked. Hes not gona be like oh is this one Carb legal? NO THEY WRITE U FOR MODIFIED CAR. They dont care about the part. You would not know because once again everyones talking like they have experiance with this stuff but really just talking out ones ****.
All of the kits have their pros and cons.... Procharger, A&A, ECS.... all of them have goods and bads, and they'll all get the job done well.
I will say some of the fastest C5s/C6s in the country are using A&A kits...or at least variations of the original kit.
You do know that ALGZ06's C5Z is quicker in the 1/4 mile then any C7 on this forum? Yeah that's on a modded A&A kit with a YSI...on a little street car with overdrive and ac.
When any C7 runs quicker then a 8.60 with any kind of blower.....lemme know...
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