If the C7 has a ferrari look and size it will
10-23-2011, 09:24 PM
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I was going to sat the same thing. The C6 resembles the 575 and 550 very much.
10-24-2011, 12:31 PM
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Look at the gills. AKA Grand Sport. Also, look at the line that runs from the rear quarter panel to the middle of the door. Very similar.
I love these cars!!!
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10-24-2011, 01:37 PM
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As to flowing lines along the waistline of the cars; similar but I can rummage through Google images and find other cars with a similar sweep. There are limited ways to design a car with smooth, flowing lines. That doesn't mean Corvette copied Ferrari on styling cues, any more than Ferrari copied Corvette.
They both are dang good looking.
10-25-2011, 01:42 PM
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I guess I don't understand all the angst by some toward the notion of the C7 looking markedly different than the C6.
Surely these folks have seen a C1 sitting next to a C2. And a C2 sitting next to a C3.
Those three cars are drastically different in appearance from one another, while also retaining some Corvette "cues". And all three of them were accepted as "Corvette" back then, and still today.
So what if the C7 is a dramatic change from the C6? As long as it's well-done, is a cohesive, compelling design and retains some Corvette "cues", it will be no larger a styling departure from the C6 than the C2 was to the C1, or the C3 was to the C2.
And yes, it will still be a Corvette, just like those were, and are. Again, guess I don't understand all the angst.
I'm personally looking forward to seeing it, and I have every faith that it will be a great performer, and a great looker (especially if Lutz had any input on it, which apparently he did).
Surely these folks have seen a C1 sitting next to a C2. And a C2 sitting next to a C3.
Those three cars are drastically different in appearance from one another, while also retaining some Corvette "cues". And all three of them were accepted as "Corvette" back then, and still today.
So what if the C7 is a dramatic change from the C6? As long as it's well-done, is a cohesive, compelling design and retains some Corvette "cues", it will be no larger a styling departure from the C6 than the C2 was to the C1, or the C3 was to the C2.
And yes, it will still be a Corvette, just like those were, and are. Again, guess I don't understand all the angst.
I'm personally looking forward to seeing it, and I have every faith that it will be a great performer, and a great looker (especially if Lutz had any input on it, which apparently he did).
10-26-2011, 01:32 PM
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It is my opinion and will forever be my opinion that the Corvette will ETRNALLY be viewed as an old man's car. The market shifted when the price got stupid (circa C4). If you don't build a car that a 30 - 40 something can afford, you will lose that market.
That being said, if those that CAN afford it don't see the QUALITY in materials and workmanship, it can have style that rocks and still sit on the showroom floor. I LOVE my Corvette, but I will tell you at the risk of CF lighning striking, it is a POS of the highest magnitude. No other car I own breaks while sitting in the garage. Turn the key and "viola" there's a noise I never heard before.
Creating a bad repution happens at lightning speed in comparison with repairing a reputation.
Corvette = Old guy car. (source: ME, I'm an old guy and my friends that drive Corvettes are also old, and all the Corvettes I wave to are driven by old people)
That being said, if those that CAN afford it don't see the QUALITY in materials and workmanship, it can have style that rocks and still sit on the showroom floor. I LOVE my Corvette, but I will tell you at the risk of CF lighning striking, it is a POS of the highest magnitude. No other car I own breaks while sitting in the garage. Turn the key and "viola" there's a noise I never heard before.
Creating a bad repution happens at lightning speed in comparison with repairing a reputation.
Corvette = Old guy car. (source: ME, I'm an old guy and my friends that drive Corvettes are also old, and all the Corvettes I wave to are driven by old people)
10-26-2011, 02:18 PM
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Corvettes are not old guy cars, they are disposable income guys. I order and bought my first new Corvette when I was 29 (1990 Model). I was not rich, I made maybe twice what the car cost. I was single and had low living expenses. At the time less than 2% of all new Corvette buyers were under 35. I had a used 86 before that.
It is all about what you want and have the money for. I grew up with V-8s (69 Mustang, 74 Cutlass, 74 Z28 later turbo charged) but didn't always have one. I had a new 1979 Mazda RX7. I had a new 85 Fiero GT. I liked 2 seat sports cars. They were fun. The Corvette had more perfomance and I got the money to buy it. So I did.
The problem in getting new young buer beside the cost of the car, is the cost of the insurance, and the lack of experience. Have you ever been 29 and gone to a dealer and said you wanted to take one for a test drive????? Let's just say it is it is not the most positive experience.I ordered my 1990 Corvette (as soon as ordering opened) with a 6 speed (first year) with ever seeing one (new interior), or driving one (OK I had the 86). So I think the GM roadshows can generate some excitement for the car, if younger drivers get to experience them.
Another option is if current new model Corvtte owners would just drive around neighborhoods offering rides to kids........ Yeah that may not be the best idea..... But you have to get them hooked young.
It is all about what you want and have the money for. I grew up with V-8s (69 Mustang, 74 Cutlass, 74 Z28 later turbo charged) but didn't always have one. I had a new 1979 Mazda RX7. I had a new 85 Fiero GT. I liked 2 seat sports cars. They were fun. The Corvette had more perfomance and I got the money to buy it. So I did.
The problem in getting new young buer beside the cost of the car, is the cost of the insurance, and the lack of experience. Have you ever been 29 and gone to a dealer and said you wanted to take one for a test drive????? Let's just say it is it is not the most positive experience.I ordered my 1990 Corvette (as soon as ordering opened) with a 6 speed (first year) with ever seeing one (new interior), or driving one (OK I had the 86). So I think the GM roadshows can generate some excitement for the car, if younger drivers get to experience them.
Another option is if current new model Corvtte owners would just drive around neighborhoods offering rides to kids........ Yeah that may not be the best idea..... But you have to get them hooked young.
10-26-2011, 02:46 PM
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Corvette's aren't going to get any cheaper so sales volumes aren't going to grow based on increased affordability. The car has to be made attractive to younger people who can afford to buy one. This is a real problem because the age issue is not just that the Corvette appeals mostly to older guys in their 50s and up. It's actually worse than that. It's the same guys, baby boomers, that keep buying them. They used to be young guys that wanted a Corvette and have turned into older guys that have a Corvette. That's why the average age of a Corvette owner keeps rising. Eventually all these guys will be hanging up their keys and that's why it's so important to attract a new cohort of younger buyers. Get their attention in their 20s and 30s so they want one, then get their business in their 30s and 40s when they can afford one. Corvette did this masterfully back in the day. Now, it's Porsche and BMW and others doing it, leaving the Vette behind. I don't know what the solution is. Maybe there isn't one. But I can't believe that GM can crack this nut with a cosmetic makeover of the C6 and giving it a nice interior. More is required but I don't know at this point what that means. I know what I'd like to see but I'm not in that younger cohort and I really don't know what turns their crank.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
10-26-2011, 02:55 PM
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Corvette's aren't going to get any cheaper so sales volumes aren't going to grow based on increased affordability. The car has to be made attractive to younger people who can afford to buy one. This is a real problem because the age issue is not just that the Corvette appeals mostly to older guys in their 50s and up. It's actually worse than that. It's the same guys, baby boomers, that keep buying them. They used to be young guys that wanted a Corvette and have turned into older guys that have a Corvette. That's why the average age of a Corvette owner keeps rising. Eventually all these guys will be hanging up their keys and that's why it's so important to attract a new cohort of younger buyers. Get their attention in their 20s and 30s so they want one, then get their business in their 30s and 40s when they can afford one. Corvette did this masterfully back in the day. Now, it's Porsche and BMW and others doing it, leaving the Vette behind. I don't know what the solution is. Maybe there isn't one. But I can't believe that GM can crack this nut with a cosmetic makeover of the C6 and giving it a nice interior. More is required but I don't know at this point what that means. I know what I'd like to see but I'm not in that younger cohort and I really don't know what turns their crank.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
I'm 28. I've been a Corvette owner since I was 18. I've had a 2000 millennium yellow coupe (lowered suspension), a 2001 yellow convert black top, and another 2001 yellow convert black top. And now im in a 2003 50th anniversary maroon
There's still hope, but $75,000 is a lot of money for a car, especially at my age group. And usually if you can afford a car that expensive, you are probably buying a mercedes.
10-26-2011, 02:56 PM
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That's one of the reasons I love my C6 - it reminds me of those great cars!
10-26-2011, 03:34 PM
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10-26-2011, 08:24 PM
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"Dana" - ????? where the heck did that come from?
It's "Glenn", BTW.Looks like you've got about 7 years on me, but I too grew up infatuated with those cars. If I squint just right, My
'06 LMB C6 reminds me of the Daytona Coupe!
