Could this be it..
#281
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As Clint once said, a man has to know his limitations. Or said another way, a man has to know how to drive. You can, and will, get in as much trouble manhandling an AWD car as you will in a RWD car. They all can bite you square in the ***, nannies be damned.
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Not at all. The only similarity is that there's a line under the tail lights.
The lights are a different quadrilateral shape. The exhaust is centered. Vents on the sides. Reverse lights in a different position. Defuser is completely different. There's s lot more definition in the vettes fascia. The angle of the lights and position of the 3rd eye.
Honestly, how different does it have to be before you don't call it a camaro? Should they put a mini van back end on it?!
The lights are a different quadrilateral shape. The exhaust is centered. Vents on the sides. Reverse lights in a different position. Defuser is completely different. There's s lot more definition in the vettes fascia. The angle of the lights and position of the 3rd eye.
Honestly, how different does it have to be before you don't call it a camaro? Should they put a mini van back end on it?!
#287
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But if (the core) buyers are put off by items such as cost and/or complexity then they won't buy the car. If no one buys the car then the car dies. A RWD Corvette that sells beats an AWD one that doesn't sell/no longer exists, every single time.
I can almost assure you that GM/Chevrolet feels the exact same way too.
In this particular case, cheaper might actually also mean "better".
Now when it comes to the Z06 or more so the ZR1 then yes, you might have a solid point. As even the much more costly Turbo S isn't completely safe from the ZR1's wrath in many performance categories.
As for the average driver being able to accelerate quickly/going fast more easily, yes AWD does excel in that arena. But modern technology is an amazing thing and launch/traction control systems are getting better and better as I type this.
Plenty of ultra high performance cars are still RWD only.
#288
Team Owner
And I believe that Camaro pic above is just a rendering and not an actual car...here are some better 'real' pics:
#291
No people, there is a resemblance and I think it is what GM wants ... Maybe they want to start with some kind of line of resemblance in there sports cars ...
I personally don't think the back end of the car looks THAT bad. Just a shame that overall the new Corvette will look like it was made in Asia, while I really don't have that feeling with the latest Camaro (that looks like an updated true American muscle car) ...
I personally don't think the back end of the car looks THAT bad. Just a shame that overall the new Corvette will look like it was made in Asia, while I really don't have that feeling with the latest Camaro (that looks like an updated true American muscle car) ...
#293
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Afterall, almost EVERY other car maker does this and it works out just fine.
I don't see anyone crying over the blatant hints or resemblances between models from the likes of Porsche, BMW, Mercedes etc.
#294
Team Owner
Unfortunately, that's the way things are headed these days. American consumers (especially the younger market) really seem to crave/desire that sort of styling as so many spend their hard earned American dollars on Hondas, Toyotas and even Hyundais. There are people out there that actually love the looks/styling of the Nissan GTR and I suppose the Corvette designers are considering all of that for the future.
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Alot of you are chirping how AWD doesnt belong in a vette? On what grounds do any of you figure that? Where does it say in any written rule of sports/performance or muscle car that they should never use AWD?
It doesnt make a difference to me if the C7 has it or not. I plan on keeping my C6 until the C8 comes out (possibly). But to see the vette use it will be interesting. As I said before I can drive a RWD car with no worries, but it would be nice to have AWD especially for those who want ultra high HP (circa 800+). Imagine an AWD C7 with 1000+hp???? Bye Bye Veyron!
It doesnt make a difference to me if the C7 has it or not. I plan on keeping my C6 until the C8 comes out (possibly). But to see the vette use it will be interesting. As I said before I can drive a RWD car with no worries, but it would be nice to have AWD especially for those who want ultra high HP (circa 800+). Imagine an AWD C7 with 1000+hp???? Bye Bye Veyron!
#298
Here are some numbers to consider:
C5 Corvette, 47.7" height, 73.6" width
C6 Corvette, 49.0" height, 72.6" width
Lamborghini Gallardo, 45.9" height, 74.8" width
Now the Audi R8 does not have a low roof but it does have exotic width. In fact it seems to have a bubbled roof rather than a high ground clearance.
Audi R8, 49.2" height, 75" width
C5 Corvette, 47.7" height, 73.6" width
C6 Corvette, 49.0" height, 72.6" width
Lamborghini Gallardo, 45.9" height, 74.8" width
Now the Audi R8 does not have a low roof but it does have exotic width. In fact it seems to have a bubbled roof rather than a high ground clearance.
Audi R8, 49.2" height, 75" width
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#299
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I understand GM is looking for the younger crowd but do you have to compete with the rice burners! The rendering does look like something from Asia. I'll wait for the C7 to come out to knock down the price of the C6.
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St. Jude Donor '17, '19
Its only been in the last decade that American made, middle class, cars have really stepped up their quality in production. For example, the cliche that Ford cars are "throw-aways" is completely wrong now. Their quality is near the top, but the parents of the younger generation that you are speaking about are still thinking the car's quality is still still same when they were growing up; influencing the generation in a negative way. Its a paradigm shift.
I remember this too. It was hilarious to hear people complain about how the car wasn't original anymore. haha.