Dudeurgettnavette

The bushings! Oh yeah!

SCM_Crash

LOL @ BlueOx


OK, on a serious note:
* Completely new generation of motor.
* Completely new interior design.
* Completely new electronics system. (Hopefully bug free for once)
* Completely new seating. (THANK GOD!)
* Completely new gauge system. (Rumored to be an LCD screen like the LFA)
* Completely new entertainment system. (Supposedly like CUE)
* Completely new traction control and active handling system.
* Completely new lighting throughout the car.

Those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. Sure they have nothing to do with the outward profile of the car, but honestly I don't think the C7 has to change into a garbage tuck to be different enough. Funny, though, many people on here would **** and moan if the C7 looked TOO different.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

BlueOx

It would have to pretty revolutionary to have even half of that. Here's hoping you get your wishlist and can afford it if you do!

I really would like to see the factory roll bars (or equivalent) in convertibles and aluminum frames in all Corvette models. It would certainly be revolutionary to have a Corvette w/AWD and I really would like to see that happen.

LS1LT1

Hey, if they can give the car AWD without tacking more than 50 pounds and/or $500.00 onto the price of the finished product than I'm all for it.
But if not, I'll be MORE than happy with RWD and just use some drag radials to get the jump on all of the AWD vehicles out there like I have been doing for the last 5 years anyway.

BlueOx

How much do the drag radials weight compared to normal Vette tires?

Here is the way the Ferrari FF does AWD...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tFy1r4Htd6E

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...stem-explained

LS1LT1

They're actually lighter, and they usually ride better as well.
Of course they also won't corner quite as well or be quite as stable in high speed maneuvers/lane changes as the standard Corvette tires.

LS1LT1

Looks like a cool system and they did find a way to add AWD without adding too much weight...but that car still weighs over 4100 pounds!

SCM_Crash

Yeah. All of that is from the rumor mill. I'm 99% sure that the seats are going to be better. Honestly, if the seats are better and the rest of the interior is nearly identical to the C6's, I think I'd be happy still.

LS1LT1

The seats are already better (2012) but I too would like a little more 'racing' put into the C7's seats.
But on the other hand, my stock C6 seats are REALLY comfortable on long trips so I don't want to lose too much (or any) of that either.

Jp23rockstar

If the target for the camaro zl1 was the corvette grand sport, then the base c7 should match the c6 z06. I think it can be done I hope...

LS1LT1

SCM_Crash

I can't imagine why you'd think the base C7 is going to match the Z06. GM wouldn't do this at all. The base C8 may, but definitely not the C7.

Why? Because:

A) Most people can't handle the C6 Z06 as it is. If the C7 base Vette was as powerful or performed as well as the C6Z, you're going to have a smaller target demographic. Remember, a lot of husbands buy Corvettes for their wives.

B) It would **** off the C6 Z06 owners to no extent. 2012-2013 Z06 owner gets owned by base C7 right out of the gate... GM would have a LOT of explaining to do.

C) There's absolutely no reason a base Corvette should have that kind of performance. GM can get away with better MPG and a smoother ride for the base Vettes while keeping the C6Z and C7Z more special(ized) for those that are hungry for real performance, and not just your daily driver touring car.


Now keep in mind that the C6 Base didn't even start to TOUCH the C5Z until 4 years later, and even then, with equal drivers the C5Z is still a better performer on the track than the base LS3 C6. Even the C4ZR1 remained king of the road for 10 more years before the base Vette (LS2) that could beat it came out. GM isn't going to **** off its customers by building a base model that rocks the previous year's top model. That's just bad business.

hig4s

Really, the 2004 Z06 numbers were 405hp and 11.97 118mph in 1/4 mile.
2005 C6 LS2 numbers were 400hp and 11.8 122mph in 1/4 mile.

Sprayy

c5z drives better on a track though.

hig4s

Not disputing that, just don't see how it could be said the original C6 was nowhere near the C5 Z06 in performance, and using that as an argument that the base C7 will be nowhere near the C6 Z06 in performance.

LS1LT1

True, but I believe that 'SCM Crash' was actually talking about the base model cars. That the new generation base model cars tend not to exceed the capabilities of the previous generations 'super' model versions.
And he's essentially correct with that.
And the numbers you posted above (11.8@118mph) certainly aren't Chevrolet's numbers but yes, the 2002-2004 C5 Z06s were capable of 11.7/11.8 and 118mph quarter mile times in bone stock trim.

But....

This one ^ is a little off LOL.
The quickest recorded time that I know of for a bone stock C6 LS2 is 12.21 and 115.91mph, I know this because I personally set that number back in 2006. That same car now runs well into the 10s at over 127+mph with bolt ons.
Now, the C6 LS3s have done 11.8s in stock trim, in fact the record there is an 11.71 at just under 120mph.
That's fast and I do expect (at least hope) the base C7 to beat that by a notable margin, maybe not be quite at ideal C6 Z06 levels (10.9s/11.0s at 127+mph in stock trim) but certainly inching much closer to it.

LS1LT1

Good point. Depending on one's perception/interpretation/definition of 'near', it could be said that the base C6 LS2 was in fact quite near the C5 Z06 in performance (the C6 actually was faster in top speed by the way). And of course that the follow up LS3 motor finally helped the base C6 even exceed it by a small amount.

I firmly believe that the base C7 will easily outperform the outgoing base LS3/Grand Sport models and come somewhat close to (but not quite match) the current C6 Z06's overall straight line performance.

hig4s

sorry, they had the 2007 Z06 numbers right next to the 2005 LS2 numbers.. But still 400hp vs 405.. I see no reason why the Base C7 won't be 500hp, close to the C6 Z06.

LS1LT1

I'm predicting a base C7 with a rating somewhere in the 460-485hp range.

SCM_Crash

You know the "405hp" is under rated for the LS6, right? My bone stock 03 dyno'd 355rwhp before tuning or CAI. Stock LS2s dyno 340rwhp. The numbers tell the story.