What's #1 on your list when it comes to the C7?
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What's #1 on your list when it comes to the C7?
This is a Discussion about area of the car needs to be fixed,stay the same( I am looking at you AWD fan's. Joke), added or removed.
Like is HP being 500+ for base for you, Do or die. Is it if it does not come with imported Leather/ $10000 Leather you are going to call it cheep.
Like is HP being 500+ for base for you, Do or die. Is it if it does not come with imported Leather/ $10000 Leather you are going to call it cheep.
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For me, it depends strictly on the weight of the car and the transmission/rear differential gearing.
450hp might even be enough for me if the car weighs only 3050 pounds and comes with some steep enough gearing (though I'd still rather it have 475+hp).
Nah, I'd never do that. I would even be completely fine if the C7 came with the leather quality of the current base cars as long as they're wrapped around some more 'sporting oriented' seats. I just had my C6 out for a bit and was actually fondling my leather a little bit, it's not quite 'Rolls Royce Connolly hides' level of course but it's pretty soft leather nonetheless and has been quite durable for me all of these years.
450hp might even be enough for me if the car weighs only 3050 pounds and comes with some steep enough gearing (though I'd still rather it have 475+hp).
Nah, I'd never do that. I would even be completely fine if the C7 came with the leather quality of the current base cars as long as they're wrapped around some more 'sporting oriented' seats. I just had my C6 out for a bit and was actually fondling my leather a little bit, it's not quite 'Rolls Royce Connolly hides' level of course but it's pretty soft leather nonetheless and has been quite durable for me all of these years.
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Team Owner
I don't need an all leather(dash, door panels, etc) just get rid of the rubbermaid material. Most other cars have vinyl dash and door coverings that don't feel like a used wetsuit or get the white residue.
#7
- better electrical systems that do more to preserve battery.
- better looking and more supportive interior with unique alcantara steering wheel and seat inserts.
- every Corvette must come with a significant option delete list.
Added:
- an AWD option or separate model that maintains similar weight balance with handling. The ZR-A!
- every Corvette should have a factory SC or Twin Turbo option.
- every Corvette convertible should be built with enough protection to be accepted to run at any track. It is inexcusable that this has not been the case.
Stay same:
- a great base RWD Corvette.
- cloth convertible tops
- a great 6 spd manual shifter
#12
Drifting
The dct should be on a the c7 from the beginning. GM had a patent for it "NG C7 RWD DCT" for 2012 model year but that did get pushed back to 2014. GM just has to pay money for rights of a dct.
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Melting Slicks
A smooth shifting DCT would be too good to be true. One of my only gripes with my ZO6 was the manual trans that was feeling a little sloppy at 10,000 miles. I read about flushing the slave cylinder but sold the car before doing that procedure.
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Melting Slicks
Has to look good is number one.
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I wonder if those who keep clamoring for ever increasing HP are aware of the agressive CAFE regulations imposed on auto makers. My recollection is that the fleet standard for 2025 is over 54 MPG. Granted that's a long way off, but 2016 isn't. For 2016, expected car-fleet CAFE requirements will range from a low of 34.7 mpg for Jaguar/Land Rover to a high of 40.8 mpg for Suzuki due to the small size of its cars.
Granted these are fleet averages, but there are enough Corvettes being sold each year that they could produce a drag on overall fleet averages if GM doesn't begin to increase MPG for Corvettes. My expectation is that Corvettes in the future will be a little smaller, weigh less, and have smaller engines with less HP and torque. So I just don't see 500 HP base Corvettes as being likely. A 350 HP Corvette should be able to meet CAFE standards and still produce great performance if GM can get its weight down in the 2950 - 3000 lb range.
Granted these are fleet averages, but there are enough Corvettes being sold each year that they could produce a drag on overall fleet averages if GM doesn't begin to increase MPG for Corvettes. My expectation is that Corvettes in the future will be a little smaller, weigh less, and have smaller engines with less HP and torque. So I just don't see 500 HP base Corvettes as being likely. A 350 HP Corvette should be able to meet CAFE standards and still produce great performance if GM can get its weight down in the 2950 - 3000 lb range.
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I wonder if those who keep clamoring for ever increasing HP are aware of the agressive CAFE regulations imposed on auto makers. My recollection is that the fleet standard for 2025 is over 54 MPG. Granted that's a long way off, but 2016 isn't. For 2016, expected car-fleet CAFE requirements will range from a low of 34.7 mpg for Jaguar/Land Rover to a high of 40.8 mpg for Suzuki due to the small size of its cars.
Granted these are fleet averages, but there are enough Corvettes being sold each year that they could produce a drag on overall fleet averages if GM doesn't begin to increase MPG for Corvettes. My expectation is that Corvettes in the future will be a little smaller, weigh less, and have smaller engines with less HP and torque. So I just don't see 500 HP base Corvettes as being likely. A 350 HP Corvette should be able to meet CAFE standards and still produce great performance if GM can get its weight down in the 2950 - 3000 lb range.
Granted these are fleet averages, but there are enough Corvettes being sold each year that they could produce a drag on overall fleet averages if GM doesn't begin to increase MPG for Corvettes. My expectation is that Corvettes in the future will be a little smaller, weigh less, and have smaller engines with less HP and torque. So I just don't see 500 HP base Corvettes as being likely. A 350 HP Corvette should be able to meet CAFE standards and still produce great performance if GM can get its weight down in the 2950 - 3000 lb range.
You are right about CAFE concerns, but the base Corvette power levels are not going to go that far backwards. If anything, I see high performance cars like the Corvette becoming more expensive in the future to limit accessibility while maintaining profit margins. Of course, this would limit production volume and the overall result would have a less significant negative impact on fleet averages.
The high performance V8 sports car that Americans crave won't be going away, but the price of admission will go up IMO.
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I wonder if those who keep clamoring for ever increasing HP are aware of the agressive CAFE regulations imposed on auto makers. My recollection is that the fleet standard for 2025 is over 54 MPG. Granted that's a long way off, but 2016 isn't. For 2016, expected car-fleet CAFE requirements will range from a low of 34.7 mpg for Jaguar/Land Rover to a high of 40.8 mpg for Suzuki due to the small size of its cars.
Granted these are fleet averages, but there are enough Corvettes being sold each year that they could produce a drag on overall fleet averages if GM doesn't begin to increase MPG for Corvettes. My expectation is that Corvettes in the future will be a little smaller, weigh less, and have smaller engines with less HP and torque. So I just don't see 500 HP base Corvettes as being likely. A 350 HP Corvette should be able to meet CAFE standards and still produce great performance if GM can get its weight down in the 2950 - 3000 lb range.
Granted these are fleet averages, but there are enough Corvettes being sold each year that they could produce a drag on overall fleet averages if GM doesn't begin to increase MPG for Corvettes. My expectation is that Corvettes in the future will be a little smaller, weigh less, and have smaller engines with less HP and torque. So I just don't see 500 HP base Corvettes as being likely. A 350 HP Corvette should be able to meet CAFE standards and still produce great performance if GM can get its weight down in the 2950 - 3000 lb range.
I'm sorry a 14.5 stock quarter mile isn't great performance....
#18
Burning Brakes
#1 is having the fuel door on the passenger side. I HATE the driver's side fuel door because every gas station has those stupid pillars and or a high curb and the doors open way too wide.
#19
#1 exterior needs to LOOK AWESOME. I am not buying a Corvette if the look isn't there. It has to be a head turner.
#2 would be an AWD system. I doubt that happens. If they offered it though, the performance and potential would be incredible.
#3 is DCT. I had DCT in my GT-R and had the manual in my Z06. The DCT is the only way to go if the Corvette is to perform on the level of today's supercars. Of course, always give the manual option for the purists.
#4 hard-top convertible roof. This way it can be run at the track, be solid, and look good in the top up in the colder months. Ferrari, Lamborghini, and McLaren are all using folding roofs for convertible tops. They use Carbon Fiber roofs to keep the weight down. Maybe aluminum with CF for the roof panel will be cost efficient enough and light enough that performance will not suffer from the convertible.
#2 would be an AWD system. I doubt that happens. If they offered it though, the performance and potential would be incredible.
#3 is DCT. I had DCT in my GT-R and had the manual in my Z06. The DCT is the only way to go if the Corvette is to perform on the level of today's supercars. Of course, always give the manual option for the purists.
#4 hard-top convertible roof. This way it can be run at the track, be solid, and look good in the top up in the colder months. Ferrari, Lamborghini, and McLaren are all using folding roofs for convertible tops. They use Carbon Fiber roofs to keep the weight down. Maybe aluminum with CF for the roof panel will be cost efficient enough and light enough that performance will not suffer from the convertible.
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Great Performance by who's standards? Die Hard Loyalists that are grasping for straws? Your idea goes against everything General Motors is doing 585 Base HP Camaros and you think they would destroy the Corvette by lowering its HP by a good 100?
I'm sorry a 14.5 stock quarter mile isn't great performance....
I'm sorry a 14.5 stock quarter mile isn't great performance....
While I agree with the gas mileage remarks, I doubt that we will see a drop to 350 HP for 2014, but I believe it will start dropping each year, in order to meet the EPA requirements. The same will happen with the high horse power Camaros, CTS-V's, Mustangs, etc.
For 2014, I believe they can get the 2014 gas mileage requirements just by implementing the improvements in the engine(ie direct injection, VVT, etc) that are current technology, combined with the aluminum frame, etc for weight reduction. Might even see an increase in horsepower over today's 436, but it won't stay that way, year after year. But I doubt any horsepower increase will be much as the engine displacement is sure to be decreased from today's 6.2L.