Trinity Animation's C7 - new C5/C6 comparisons and color variation images
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after seeing this render next to a C5 and a C6, this looks like ****. Sorry, you did a great job in your work, its the car im talking about here though. I hope it looks better in person. The C5 and C6 are beautiful cars with gorgeous flowing lines. This one - not so much.
#43
Those are terrific, and look awesome! If the real thing looks like these, GM will have done a great job on the evolution of their halo car! Keep these renderings coming- its all we have until actual photos bow! Fun stuff.
#44
Looks just awesome. I agree with one other poster ... The C6 looks really dated compared to this. And sorry to say, I love the rear. Looks mean (this comming from a traditionalist). I would love to see this one next to my chrome bumper C3 ;-)
#45
Burning Brakes
I dont know if its just me, or if the renderings are different than the jalopnik pic, i haven't compared them side by side or anything
but when i saw that video a week or so ago,and these pics....damnit does the car look different and sexy...looks a lot more exotic/italian which I love. Love the front end and the wider hips (although they could have done an even better job imo) and i still hate the back end it doesn't flow with the rest of the car at all
but when i saw that video and these im like WOW with a smile on my face after looking at the jalopnik pics a million times...
but when i saw that video a week or so ago,and these pics....damnit does the car look different and sexy...looks a lot more exotic/italian which I love. Love the front end and the wider hips (although they could have done an even better job imo) and i still hate the back end it doesn't flow with the rest of the car at all
but when i saw that video and these im like WOW with a smile on my face after looking at the jalopnik pics a million times...
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Wow it's getting to be time for another real spy shot. This is getting pretty wild as the renderings are getting better and better and we are arguing about things we are not sure exist like exact shapes, seam lines etc. At any rate I am going to be disappointed if the C7 does NOT look like this as I have gotten so used to it, my beloved ZO6 is starting to look old and tired even though I only have 6000 miles on her. I am loving this new concept though and am thrilled that there is a fairly good possibility of ditching the age old and dated ideas of the bubble rear hatch, the big old ugly round or oval taillights, targa top, and other overly used ideas. I'm looking forward.
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I can just see the press release now! "GM announced today that in an effort to cut costs, engineers and designers for the upcoming C7 Corvette were told to just use the rear of the lower model Camaro on the rear of the new Corvette! Just think of the man hours and effort we have eliminated by doing this! The Camaro is selling so good that we thought Corvette owners and future Corvette buyers would just be "In Awe" we they saw the tail-end of Chevrolet's high-selling Camaro model on the Corvette too!
#48
Drifting
The C7 won't be a car that ages well and the aerodynamics can't be all that great.
#49
The proportions seem a bit off on the render. I think the front corners aren't supposed to bulge out so much and something seems wrong about the way the rear fascia flows into the hatch.
Honestly, I just see a rectangle when I look at the render. Also, I think the front fascia is supposed to be lower to the ground.
Honestly, I just see a rectangle when I look at the render. Also, I think the front fascia is supposed to be lower to the ground.
#50
Melting Slicks
The proportions seem a bit off on the render. I think the front corners aren't supposed to bulge out so much and something seems wrong about the way the rear fascia flows into the hatch.
Honestly, I just see a rectangle when I look at the render. Also, I think the front fascia is supposed to be lower to the ground.
Honestly, I just see a rectangle when I look at the render. Also, I think the front fascia is supposed to be lower to the ground.
#51
No disrespect intended. But most of you really think the C7 as pictured is a better design than the C6? Maybe you should add a few more cutouts, scoops and disjointed lines to make it even more modern and edgy? From this view it looks like a Datsun 240Z that was customized with a JCWitney catalog.
The C7 won't be a car that ages well and the aerodynamics can't be all that great.
The C7 won't be a car that ages well and the aerodynamics can't be all that great.
Considering how much aero means to the Vette Racing team, I'll bet it is as good if not better than the C6.
#52
Drifting
Jim, OP: I know this might seem silly to do but I was wondering if you could take your C7 rear end rendering & place a copy of it side by side but on the the second one render in some taillight that is like a C5 or C6, twin round tail light. The reason for the request is a bunch of us are pro-round tail light & certain it does not look good with the "Camaro" taillights. I want to see if it looks better than the "new" style. Maybe, just maybe the round older round taillights do not compliment the new bodystyle & GM made the right choice. Anyways, it seems like a fun thing for us to talk about as we wait for the photos of the C7 to appear.
Thanks again for the great job on the renderings. I know it is time consuming.
Thanks again for the great job on the renderings. I know it is time consuming.
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I haven't heard anyone say it is a better design than the C6, just different. Remember, we haven't seen the final in any way, shape or form. So far, it looks like it has fewer cutouts, scoops, etc. than the Z06.
Considering how much aero means to the Vette Racing team, I'll bet it is as good if not better than the C6.
Considering how much aero means to the Vette Racing team, I'll bet it is as good if not better than the C6.
I strongly agree with this....
#54
The new Camaro is the only thing that scares me. The door/rear quarter junction is a deal breaker for me and I think it is just bad design, In most colors, it looks like the quarter panel is a different shade than the door. The quarter panel needed to be on the same plane as the door for maybe an inch before it flared out. Just bad design.
#56
Drifting
I haven't heard anyone say it is a better design than the C6, just different. Remember, we haven't seen the final in any way, shape or form. So far, it looks like it has fewer cutouts, scoops, etc. than the Z06.
Considering how much aero means to the Vette Racing team, I'll bet it is as good if not better than the C6.
Considering how much aero means to the Vette Racing team, I'll bet it is as good if not better than the C6.
And, the design used by Corvette Racing will only have styling cues that look vaguely similar to the street C7.
#57
Probably not. Every raised surface, lip, edge, cutout and scoop detracts from the aerodynamics. For example, the Coefficient-of-Drag of a base C6 is 0.28 and the Z06 is 0.34. The C7 will absolutely have a higher Cd than the C6 if the drawings are correct.
And, the design used by Corvette Racing will only have styling cues that look vaguely similar to the street C7.
And, the design used by Corvette Racing will only have styling cues that look vaguely similar to the street C7.
They take this stuff pretty seriously and I doubt they would go backward, all else being equal. Here is how Tom Peters viewed it for the C6 design...
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#58
Drifting
The Corvette racing team had a major impact on the design of the C6 base and Z06, including extensive aero design and wind tunnel testing. Do you think they aren't going to be as involved this time? They take this stuff pretty seriously and I doubt they would go backward.
Corvette Racing is only interested in the major C7 design elements (height, width, length, wheelbase, track, etc) and NOT the surface features of the C7. Why do you think the C6 Z06 had a poorer Cd than the base car if Corvette Racing was interested (and involved) in street performance? They will design the surface of their race car (primary aerodynamics) as needed to win races without appreciable influence from the street cars.
Again, looking at your last edit. Please explain to me why the C6 Z06 has MUCH worse aerodynamics than the base car if you really believe that quote?
#59
The C7 is more of a styling exercise (trying to be modern and edgy to attract younger buyers) than an engineering exercise from my perspective.
Corvette Racing is only interested in the major C7 design elements (height, width, length, wheelbase, track, etc) and NOT the surface features of the C7. Why do you think the C6 Z06 had a poorer Cd than the base car if Corvette Racing was interested (and involved) in street performance? They will design the surface of their race car (primary aerodynamics) as needed to win races without appreciable influence from the street cars.
Again, looking at your last edit. Please explain to me why the C6 Z06 has MUCH worse aerodynamics than the base car if you really believe that quote?
Corvette Racing is only interested in the major C7 design elements (height, width, length, wheelbase, track, etc) and NOT the surface features of the C7. Why do you think the C6 Z06 had a poorer Cd than the base car if Corvette Racing was interested (and involved) in street performance? They will design the surface of their race car (primary aerodynamics) as needed to win races without appreciable influence from the street cars.
Again, looking at your last edit. Please explain to me why the C6 Z06 has MUCH worse aerodynamics than the base car if you really believe that quote?
Downforce. A major requirement in a race car. Why do you think all ALMS cars have wider bodies and wings?
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#60
Drifting
You are wrong about the styling exercise bit. Look closely at the surfaces and tell me what specifically gives the C7 we have seen so far much less aero efficiency than the C6?
Downforce. A major requirement in a race car. Why do you think all ALMS cars have wider bodies and wings?
Downforce. A major requirement in a race car. Why do you think all ALMS cars have wider bodies and wings?