JerriVette

I agree ..there is something special and tight with the 2 seat layout.

The 6th gen camaro will meet the 2 plus 2 consumer need....

Emergency rear seats are best left to camaro....

BlueOx

Oh yeah, the 'purity' argument...I wonder how that is working for Ferrari with the FF? You think people aren't going to buy a Ferrari now that they offer a 4 seat, AWD vehicle because of purity?

adamgl

Agree completely! It would add way to much length and weight. Wouldn't even be worth calling it a Corvette anymore.

TWS Racing

You just won't get it. Even if you don't understand why 80% of the forum in this poll voted against it, GM will.

GM would understand the economics of alienating 80% of their Corvette customer base.

The Corvette is a niche car. It is not supposed to replace your mini van.

To further demonstrate your faulty reasoning, in your Ferrari example you confused a manufacturer with an individual model. That completely nullifies what you must have thought was logical.

I'm going to type this slowly for you:

Ferrari = Chevrolet = Manufacturer.

Ferrari has several models of car. Chevrolet has many.

Corvette = model of car. There is no car company called Corvette.

Those who want a niche car buy this model. Those who don't buy another model.

Because Ferrari makes a 4 seater model is not ruining their brand because they are a M-A-N-U-F-A-C-T-U-R-E-R.

John T

Hellooo Justin,
I think you misunderstand me Justin about this 2+2 thing.. I hope the C7 just works, that's all. Ultimately it doesn't matter about the seats and I just want it to excel , but because of the way you react to this 2+2 stuff I will just go nuts with maniacal laughter if this sucker has an extra seat !

And I will name those seats the " Justin seats " ! The kids will love that !

CRABBYJ

Here is a thought with a question. If they build both a 2 seater and a 2+2 C7 at BG, could they both go down the same line? Or would a second line with its specific tooling be necessary? Costs associated with these strategies would be more complex?

BuddhaZ06

Gm said "nothing will be the same" and "changing it so it can change you"(or something like that). You never know. A lot of things are different apparently. What would they of changed that's so drastic that we can point out already? Enough to make quotes about the change of the car. Must be something more than different taillights.

BuddhaZ06

You're right...Ford can do it. Chevy can't

BlueOx

Let me type this slowly...base (narrow) Corvette...Z51...GS....Z06(and Z07)...ZR1. Add another model to that. It would be as easy to do as it is for Ferrari (FF) or Porsche (Panamera). Both major sellers for their brand.

80% of the 100 guys who might have answered that poll MIGHT represent .05% of existing Corvette owners. It probably represents .005% of P-O-T-E-N-T-I-A-L Corvette owners.

BTW, it sure as heck wouldn't be replacing anyone's mini van. Maybe a Panamera...

Niche car's can have their niche expanded without destroying their essence. It is just a matter of getting beyond close-minded 'purity' thinking. It's all about expanding the audience and sales.

BuddhaZ06

I hope they don't do 2+2. Cuz then I'd reallly want one. Along with some ford guys on the local forum. A LOT of people really like Corvettes. But a lot of people buy camaros or mustangs instead cuz the back seat. I can see it either way. It's a personal preference thing imo

BlueOx

That's the point, give them a choice. That doesn't mean you have to STOP making a Corvette two-seater.

TWS Racing

I suspect we are still far apart as to our thinking.

Corvette is still a model of car. Even if there are different trim levels or variants or sub models or whatever we want to label it. And the soul of that model is a 2-seat sports car.

If you look at the niche concept... It is something many businesses struggle with. Call it growing pains or whatever. Once an "exclusive" brand starts to expand, it may win some new buyers but lose the original cachet and therefore lose former customers who would have bought another one, but now won't because the product has become something else.

If Chevy wants to make something "like" a Corvette with a rear seat, but NOT call it a Corvette, and it's creation would have no impact on the physical characteristics of the Corvette, then I could care less. In other words, you crazy guys who want a 4 seater can have it, but don't F&@% up "our" 2-seat sports car.

[But it would then compete in the market segment with the Camaro - 4 seat sporty car - so they would steal sales away from each other. I don't see it happening.]

BuddhaZ06

Price difference and looks though. Two different categories too

BlueOx

So let me ask you this. If Cadillac goes through with their plans to make a high-po two-seat sports car, do you think that is a great idea or not? Would it compete with the Corvette? Would it mess with the Cadillac niche?

I have never said Corvette should not have a two-seater.

TWS Racing

Maybe Chevy can build a Cor-maro for you and Blue Ox.

Just teasing.

I still maintain from a marketing standpoint and exclusivity standpoint, there needs to be that sharp divide.

A "Cor-maro" would dilute that divide.

TWS Racing

Caddy already did, the XLR. I don't know if it impacted Corvette sales. I don't think it was very successful but I really don't pay attention to Cadillac much.

Again, Cadillac is a brand, a manufacturer. We can't seem to establish there is a difference between a single model and an entire mfg of cars...

JustinStrife

I'm ot worried at all about ever getting to hear your maniacal laughter about rear seats, as it's not gong to happen for the Corvette. Chevrolet already has it's 2+2 hotrod. The Camaro. Which will be getting smaller and losing weight with the next generation. There is zero reason for GM to turn it's back on the one true two seater sports car that it has had for 60 years.

And ox, as others are saying, you are comparing manufacturers, to models of cars. Not a good comparison at all. It would be like the Miata becoming a 2+2. Or the S2000. Not going to happen.

CitationZ06@yahoo

Just move the gas tank to a tub under the seats..helps to move the center of gravity down low near the road.

The rear seat and belts belts /hardware on my camaro can't weigh more that 30lbs. I stripped out the Camaro, put it on a diet. I was very disapointed in all the work it took to strip the thing down, and I don't think I saved 60lbs..30 was the front pax seat. That Leather covered foam pad of a seat you could toss around like a card board box. If they have a delete option that move the battries back to the rear seat area, put a few storage boxes like the C3 I think it would be a win win.

All the guys on the C7 forum are Vette guys; thus this is like a FOX poll. "No seat" wins by a long shot...but then you put a 2+2 option on the market and let the customers Vote; you will sell a lot more to guys that could buy a M3, 911, Camaro, CTS-V, so on Vote.. 2+2 Vette.

prinzSD455

A Corvette is a 2 seat sports car and there should be no other option. Corvette does not need a bloated shape a la Panamerica.

CPhelps

But isn't the FF a separate model? They didn't add rear seats to an existing model of car, they made a new car to fill that role.

Many people always seem to compare the Corvette to other companies entire lines. It is just one car. A V8 rwd vehicle with more than 2 seats already exists elsewhere in GM's lineup. If you don't like the Camaro or CTS-V, find a car that you do like that meets your needs of 2+2, don't change the 2 seat sports car into this. As others have said, to get the space, you would have to lengthen the car, meaning even if there was a seat delete option, those cars would have weight and length compromises necessary for the extra seats. I just don't think with the front engine rwd layout we know is being used for the C7 they could offer a 2+2 option without compromising the 2 seat versions.