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Old 12-05-2012, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by John T
GM will find a way to advertise the the 'base' car at 2950-2975.
This with an increase in power would be pretty pretty nice indeed if true.

AND would result in a 1/2 sec better ET in the 1/4 mile run.

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Old 12-05-2012, 08:43 AM
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Will the bi-mode exhaust be standard like it is on the ZL1?
Old 12-05-2012, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by I Bin Therbefor
Someone needs to start a two question survey.

Will the BASE C7 have more than 450HP? Yes or No

Will the BASE C7 weigh less than 3000 lbs? Yes or No
Yes over 450
No under 3000
Old 12-05-2012, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I never read any GM press release where GM said the LT1 makes AT LEAST 450. They said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 450 in their prress release. When the engine is SAE certified, then we will know the actual horsepower, but with all the dyno testing GM has done with the LT1, I strongly believe they know what the ESTIMATED horsepower is. If the horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480, they would have said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480. I doubt if there will be much, if any, difference in the LT1's ESTIMATED(by GM) horsepower and the SAE certified horsepower. Just as good a chance that the SAE certified horsepower could come in at 445 HP as it could be at 455 HP. That's why GM ESTIMATED the horsepower, not to sandbag us. What would be the purpose in sandbagging the horsepower when, in a couple of months, we will know the SAE certified horsepower rating?

How do you know GM is "baiting us" with the 450 HP they released? Do you have any GM dyno sheets of the LT1 you would care to share with us?
Maybe they want to sell all these C6 Corvettes sitting on lots before telling everyone the replacement Vette will make an extra 40-50hp over what they are selling now?
Old 12-05-2012, 09:01 AM
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My inside sources at GM tell me it will actually be 451 hp
Old 12-05-2012, 09:49 AM
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My inside sources at GM tell me it will actually be 451 hp
Ha!you hit the nail on the head for minor Hp differences.


Please list your name below if you could tell whether a car has 450 or 475 hp in a blind test??? I am being serious...

I know I couldn't in legal driving on road conditions.
Old 12-05-2012, 10:33 AM
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I have both articles scanned and ready to go. Photobucket will not let me upload a pdf file though. If any would here would like for me to email it to them, so that they can upload it let me know.
Old 12-05-2012, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by keeks2915
Ha!you hit the nail on the head for minor Hp differences.


Please list your name below if you could tell whether a car has 450 or 475 hp in a blind test??? I am being serious...

I know I couldn't in legal driving on road conditions.
I have no doubt that if I drove a 450hp car, and then immediately drove the same type of car with 5% more power, I could tell which was a touch more powerful. I also have no doubt that I would guess the HP numbers wrong in a blind test, especially in a car that's 15% lighter than my daily driver.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I never read any GM press release where GM said the LT1 makes AT LEAST 450. They said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 450 in their prress release. When the engine is SAE certified, then we will know the actual horsepower, but with all the dyno testing GM has done with the LT1, I strongly believe they know what the ESTIMATED horsepower is. If the horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480, they would have said the ESTIMATED horsepower is 460 or 470 or 480. I doubt if there will be much, if any, difference in the LT1's ESTIMATED(by GM) horsepower and the SAE certified horsepower. Just as good a chance that the SAE certified horsepower could come in at 445 HP as it could be at 455 HP. That's why GM ESTIMATED the horsepower, not to sandbag us. What would be the purpose in sandbagging the horsepower when, in a couple of months, we will know the SAE certified horsepower rating?

How do you know GM is "baiting us" with the 450 HP they released? Do you have any GM dyno sheets of the LT1 you would care to share with us?
You really think that's what "estimated" means? You really think there's any chance in hell that GM would "estimate" 450 hp and actually deliver 445???
Old 12-05-2012, 10:50 AM
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The C7 haters are gonna be eating crow when the performance specs are finally revealed

.....I guarantee it.....

Like I said...the C6 is gonna get old quick come 01-13-13
Old 12-05-2012, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by keeks2915
Ha!you hit the nail on the head for minor Hp differences.


Please list your name below if you could tell whether a car has 450 or 475 hp in a blind test??? I am being serious...

I know I couldn't in legal driving on road conditions.
This line of reasoning continues to be completely illogical. By that same thought process, there's no difference between 430 and 450, so why not just keep the LS3? But then there's no difference between 430 and 400, either, so maybe we should go back to the LS2. But then there's no difference between 400 and 380, so maybe they should just switch some some turbo V6... You can go on and on. Plus, if there was really no point to small HP changes, then so much of the aftermarket would not exist.

Part of it is just bragging rights and marketing, but more importantly: a little extra HP is always better than a little less HP when it comes to performance.

Ironically, though, your reasoning is correct in a sense.There may not be much of a difference between 450 and 475, just like there is an even smaller one between 450 and 436. That's why many of us want ~475. Because there IS a fairly significant difference between 436 and 475.
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Try #1 , Crappy hotel scanner and my first time using photobucket if you dont like it...oh well...lol

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Like I said...the C6 is gonna get old quick come 01-13-13
I hope so. In my scenario, I can't afford to buy a C7 with no discounts, which there probably won't be any to start. But there is a 2012 base coupe sitting on a lot here that I hope to get pretty cheap once the C7 debuts. And I will get a full factory warranty and 3LT and an LS3 and great mileage and a corvette and ........................... well, you get my drift.
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Originally Posted by ByByBMW
I hope so. In my scenario, I can't afford to buy a C7 with no discounts, which there probably won't be any to start. But there is a 2012 base coupe sitting on a lot here that I hope to get pretty cheap once the C7 debuts. And I will get a full factory warranty and 3LT and an LS3 and great mileage and a corvette and ........................... well, you get my drift.
Get your checkbook ready
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