If the pics of the C7 are accurate...
12-26-2012, 05:17 PM
#41
Le Mans Master
It's interesting that the amount of negative sentiment for the upcoming C6 was about the same that is going on right now for the C7 - and I was one of them! But it was the wide body GS (needed a vert) that finally sold me and I had to have one. Each "rendition" that shows up being the latest and greatest "real" C7 are getting to me - and I'm liking it more and more!
My guess is that the vast majority of long term Vette enthusiasts will have a C7 sometime in their garage in the future.
My guess is that the vast majority of long term Vette enthusiasts will have a C7 sometime in their garage in the future.
12-26-2012, 05:33 PM
#42
Race Director
some folks never move forward
There are a number of folks that just bought a C6 and are in complete denial that the C7 will trash the C6 in almost every way. That car is going to make a C6 look very old, tired and outdated in a hurry. C6 resale will be on par with the C5 resale when the C6 was introduced. Remember when people thought pop ups were cool? I remember when the ZO6 came out for C6 and how I could not wait to dump the C5. The same will happen for the majority when the C7 comes out- I think you can bet on it.
I remember when the ZO6 came out for C6 and how I could not wait to dump the C5. The same will happen for the majority when the C7 comes out- I think you can bet on it.i agree, in fact i don't really see how it could be anything but what you said. it's the cycle of consumerism..
the last sports car i can think of to receive an update with the nissian Z. the 350 dropped like a rock when the 370 was released. hell, nice 50k mile 2007 350z's are all of 12k right now.
if the c6 doesn't adjust down in a similar manner i would be absolutely shocked.
Last edited by racebum; 12-26-2012 at 05:39 PM.
12-26-2012, 05:35 PM
#43
Safety Car
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Let's see
1) More HP = Good thing, but not the most important thing. Geez What is important to you -- Status. that's just foolish - *No not status but common sense > Many people do buy because they "like" the car. There will always be some other car with more HP.
2) Better fuel economy = Could care less, how's the Volt selling? I could buy a Ferrari but I'm just not into status or spending big at the gas pump -- only an idiot would be. > *Uhhhh excuse me, but what are you talking about? What does a status have to do with fuel economy. Are you at the bar?
3) Better interior = Says who? Just looks redesigned so far. Dont know about better (wait & see). Everybody says it and if you don't believe it you don't believe anything so why even comment here -- just making noise I guess> *Because everybody says it? Okie dokie... No not noise, a reply to simply point out we'll have to wait & see what it ends up being. Didnt everybody also say the world would end 12-21-12?
4) Better dash = Ok, you got a updated C4 dash. So now you know everything about the dash when you're saying wait and see on the interior -- again just noise.> *Are you serious? 
Did you not understand it was kidding about the C4? Need a refill? 
5) Fresh new style = Are you smokin' crack? No, I don't it doesn't go well with my 180+ IQ and you're an idiot for suggesting it.> *One more drink?
Relax dude, geez. 
Yah, you're right they won't sell any all all
Im sure a lot of people will drink the coolaide and talk about how great it is because its the newest greatest thing. But at some point the new will wear off and the unliked issues will still be there.
1. The car can have all the HP in the world.
2. The worlds best fuel economy.
3. Redesigned seats.
4. A updated C4 dash.
5. A wacky/copied/hybrid design from multiple cars.
But many people still buy things because they "like" them... Honey Boo Boo's mama mave have a lot of HP in bed, but i dont know how many people would pay $100k to be seen with her.
I hope the car sells good. Thats good for the folks at the BG plant and the dealers. I kinda like the front end. Dont really like the rear end. But thats just my opinion "which means a lot to Lawrence" how true. But there also seems to be a lot of people out there that have issues with the design. I would think it would be at least a small concern to look at the issues a loyal customer base has with the product that they've spent many years buying.
Let's see
1) More HP = Good thing, but not the most important thing. Geez What is important to you -- Status. that's just foolish - *No not status but common sense > Many people do buy because they "like" the car. There will always be some other car with more HP.
2) Better fuel economy = Could care less, how's the Volt selling? I could buy a Ferrari but I'm just not into status or spending big at the gas pump -- only an idiot would be. > *Uhhhh excuse me, but what are you talking about? What does a status have to do with fuel economy. Are you at the bar?
3) Better interior = Says who? Just looks redesigned so far. Dont know about better (wait & see). Everybody says it and if you don't believe it you don't believe anything so why even comment here -- just making noise I guess> *Because everybody says it? Okie dokie... No not noise, a reply to simply point out we'll have to wait & see what it ends up being.
Didnt everybody also say the world would end 12-21-12? 4) Better dash = Ok, you got a updated C4 dash.
So now you know everything about the dash when you're saying wait and see on the interior -- again just noise.> *Are you serious? Did you not understand it was kidding about the C4? Need a refill? 5) Fresh new style = Are you smokin' crack? No, I don't it doesn't go well with my 180+ IQ and you're an idiot for suggesting it.> *One more drink?
Relax dude, geez. Yah, you're right they won't sell any all all
Im sure a lot of people will drink the coolaide and talk about how great it is because its the newest greatest thing. But at some point the new will wear off and the unliked issues will still be there.
1. The car can have all the HP in the world.
2. The worlds best fuel economy.
3. Redesigned seats.
4. A updated C4 dash.
5. A wacky/copied/hybrid design from multiple cars.
But many people still buy things because they "like" them... Honey Boo Boo's mama mave have a lot of HP in bed, but i dont know how many people would pay $100k to be seen with her.
I hope the car sells good. Thats good for the folks at the BG plant and the dealers. I kinda like the front end. Dont really like the rear end. But thats just my opinion "which means a lot to Lawrence" how true. But there also seems to be a lot of people out there that have issues with the design. I would think it would be at least a small concern to look at the issues a loyal customer base has with the product that they've spent many years buying.
Last edited by jr3; 12-26-2012 at 05:58 PM.
12-26-2012, 05:36 PM
#44
Le Mans Master
But at some point the new will wear off and the unliked issues will still be there.
Yes, there will be some who rush in and have regrets later. There will also be some who warm up to the design later, or who decide it's not important enough to preclude liking the car overall and even owning one.
Honey Boo Boo's mama mave have a lot of HP in bed, but i dont know how many people would pay $100k to be seen with her.
I would think it would be at least a small concern to look at the issues a loyal customer base has with the product that they've spent many years buying.
If you're in a band, you want to know which of your songs are your fans' favorites and which sell best. You do not want to ask your fans what the chord progression and melody of your next single should be.
.Jinx
12-26-2012, 06:34 PM
#47
Team Owner
Not that there is anything wrong at all with buying and thoroughly enjoying a C6 Grand Sport (or any C6 for that matter) right now.
12-26-2012, 06:43 PM
#48
Drifting
The C7 will have an aluminum frame and considerable magnesium parts in an attempt to remove weight at the expense of long term durability (see how much aluminum frame repair costs or how fast magnesium structural parts age). It also has an engine that will be difficult to modify due to its more complex design and most likely will have teething problems surface during the first several years. Not to mention that GM has made it almost impossible to modify the power train without voiding your warranty with a new highly integrated electrical/computer system (GM will know how the car is driven and who is naughty and who is nice). Welcome to the 21st Century.
12-26-2012, 06:43 PM
#49
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When the C5 was introduced, I hated it...the butt was too big (I've owned 2 of them). When the C6 was introduced, many hated it...no pop up head lights (I've owned 3 of them). Now the C7 is about to be here...oh, that rear end again! I wonder how many C7s I'll own before the C8 comes out
1/13 can't get here soon enough
12-26-2012, 06:44 PM
#50
Just for arguments sake..... If you modify your car and then something goes wrong with the car, whose responsibility is it?
Are you suggesting GM should honor a warranty on a car that you tinkered with?
You do realize that every time that happens the aggregate price for the new cars build that cost in, meaning your "mods" ultimately increase the cost of the car in the future?
Are you suggesting GM should honor a warranty on a car that you tinkered with?
You do realize that every time that happens the aggregate price for the new cars build that cost in, meaning your "mods" ultimately increase the cost of the car in the future?
12-26-2012, 06:58 PM
#51
Le Mans Master
The 82s were the last of the real Corvettes; all those computers ruined everything. And OMG fuel injection. And OMG OBD-II. And OMG direct injection.
The truth is we lose some folks and pick up some folks with every change, and Corvette remains as real as it can be and faster and better-handling and more reliable than ever.
And the truth is that Big Brother doesn't take everything at once; he just asks you to give a little more.
When the C5 was introduced, I hated it...the butt was too big (I've owned 2 of them). When the C6 was introduced, many hated it...no pop up head lights (I've owned 3 of them). Now the C7 is about to be here...oh, that rear end again! I wonder how many C7s I'll own before the C8 comes out
1/13 can't get here soon enough
1/13 can't get here soon enough
12-26-2012, 07:02 PM
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Aluminun frame ? 
Magnesium parts ?
More complicated engine electronics / mechanicals ?
Camaro styling ?..
Whats good about this ?
If I could afforld one I would still wait to see how this all pans out.
This is GM we are talking about here.
Magnesium parts ?
More complicated engine electronics / mechanicals ?
Camaro styling ?..
Whats good about this ?
If I could afforld one I would still wait to see how this all pans out.
This is GM we are talking about here.
12-26-2012, 07:15 PM
#53
Melting Slicks
12-26-2012, 07:16 PM
#54
Melting Slicks
Just for arguments sake..... If you modify your car and then something goes wrong with the car, whose responsibility is it?
Are you suggesting GM should honor a warranty on a car that you tinkered with?
You do realize that every time that happens the aggregate price for the new cars build that cost in, meaning your "mods" ultimately increase the cost of the car in the future?
Are you suggesting GM should honor a warranty on a car that you tinkered with?
You do realize that every time that happens the aggregate price for the new cars build that cost in, meaning your "mods" ultimately increase the cost of the car in the future?
12-26-2012, 07:25 PM
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12-26-2012, 07:27 PM
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12-26-2012, 07:42 PM
#57
Burning Brakes
12-26-2012, 08:09 PM
#59
The new C7 will be like the New Apple Iphone. The fanatics will want one ASAP. Then there will be backorders for the fully loaded version and by the time those people get their cars we will know whether its going to be good or not. I personally would take one in a heartbeat "pun intended". New, loaded, clean, new car smell, and gadgets...gotta have gadgets.
12-26-2012, 08:13 PM
#60
Drifting
The 71s were the last of the real Corvettes; emissions regulations ruined everything.
The 82s were the last of the real Corvettes; all those computers ruined everything. And OMG fuel injection. And OMG OBD-II. And OMG direct injection.
The truth is we lose some folks and pick up some folks with every change, and Corvette remains as real as it can be and faster and better-handling and more reliable than ever.
And the truth is that Big Brother doesn't take everything at once; he just asks you to give a little more.
I like the way you think.
The 82s were the last of the real Corvettes; all those computers ruined everything. And OMG fuel injection. And OMG OBD-II. And OMG direct injection.
The truth is we lose some folks and pick up some folks with every change, and Corvette remains as real as it can be and faster and better-handling and more reliable than ever.
And the truth is that Big Brother doesn't take everything at once; he just asks you to give a little more.
I like the way you think.
All of the Corvettes before the C7 were durable and could be easily modified by owners (there are some doubts if the C3 was actually a Corvette
). Some have estimated that 90 to 95% of all Corvettes not destroyed in accidents can still be driven. I doubt those numbers will hold for the C7 20 years from now. And this time, big brother is taking it all at once.
