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Old 01-23-2013, 12:52 PM
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Default Why is everyone assuming there will be a Z06 and a ZR1?

Are we only assuming this based on the C6 generation, or is there more evidence? I know there will be at least one higher performance model, but what's the chance it's the only one?
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Put simply....because there's a market for it.
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Originally Posted by AbsolutHank
Are we only assuming this based on the C6 generation, or is there more evidence? I know there will be at least one higher performance model, but what's the chance it's the only one?
One reason would be that just yesterday we got confirmation that the Z06 model is currently being tested at the Yuma proving grounds.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-g...-tempe-az.html
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The Michelin Tire Engineers mentioned the rubber going on the Z06 would be wider. One of the validation engineers also mentioned that Jim Mero was currently at Yuma testing a performance version..could be true could be false
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I think there will certainly be one higher performance model at the least. Maybe not two.
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I agree with the others, the market does demand a higher performance car then the base C7, which isn't to impressive so far!

I also question having 2 high performance cars with almost the same performance achived with different power, but with the economy in the toilet and getting worst, you have to question that.

The only reason the GS came out was because sales on all vettes where already way down and GM produced way to many Z06 - ZR-1 parts and created the GS. So dump that model, since the Stingray is now the base model. Boy that would be a thread - which one to dump - Z06 or ZR1?

It seems that GM lives in a box and only the information / technology they use is what's within that box. OPEN YOUR EYES Since the C6 came out Corvette owners have been telling GM what they wanted in the C7. Even other auto makers that compared their cars to the Corvette and told GM what was good and what was bad about the car. Did GM listen, it doesn't appear to have

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Originally Posted by Joe aka - KODAK
I agree with the others, the market does demand a higher performance car then the base C7, which isn't to impressive so far!
Really?
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Originally Posted by Kappa
Really?
Interesting. A lot depends on demand. If the C7 is slow moving that could change things.
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Yep, Michelin engineers said "The tires on the Z06 and ZR1 are wider" when I asked about the narrower tires on the current base and Z51 models.

Seemed to be enough of an indicator to me. Also, Corvette with just the models they have now is a mess. How do you abandon what the ZR1 and Z06 accomplished....not happening...they'd be morons.
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
Interesting. A lot depends on demand. If the C7 is slow moving that could change things.
I'm talking about him saying that the C7's performance hasn't been impressive so far. What does he know that we haven't heard yet? My bet, nothing.
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I don't believe we will have Z06 or a ZR1 MODEL, but will have a RPO for a higher horsepower engine.
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Originally Posted by Joe aka - KODAK
I agree with the others, the market does demand a higher performance car then the base C7, which isn't to impressive so far!

I also question having 2 high performance cars with almost the same performance achived with different power, but with the economy in the toilet and getting worst, you have to question that.

The only reason the GS came out was because sales on all vettes where already way down and GM produced way to many Z06 - ZR-1 parts and created the GS. So dump that model, since the Stingray is now the base model. Boy that would be a thread - which one to dump - Z06 or ZR1?

It seems that GM lives in a box and only the information / technology they use is what's within that box. OPEN YOUR EYES Since the C6 came out Corvette owners have been telling GM what they wanted in the C7. Even other auto makers that compared their cars to the Corvette and told GM what was good and what was bad about the car. Did GM listen, it doesn't appear to have
GM came out with the GS because they saw a market for a widebody based on the base C6. They saw plenty of sets of fenders and front fascia's, Z06 brakes and wheels etc, being sold over the dealer's parts counter and saw that aftermarket companies were offering knock off's.

By making the GS a Model, and bumping up the price, they made more money off the C6 vs selling a base car and then selling parts to convert. Plus a lot of people didn't want to convert their base C6 to a GS but would buy one if offered from GS as a RTR Model.

Plus some people just wouldn't buy a base C6 because they didn't like the looks but would buy a GS because they did like the looks, so GM made a sale it would have otherwise lost.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I don't believe we will have Z06 or a ZR1 MODEL, but will have a RPO for a higher horsepower engine.
Along with some front and side splitters/skirts
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Currently, two engines are based on the new LT1 engine block.

The LT1 will be in the 2014 C7... base engine.

GM has an LT4 in development (supercharged) which will in the C7 high performance model.

Hope we see the HP model in the 2015 Corvette line.

Trucks and other GM products will get the new LT1 block in a year or so as well.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I don't believe we will have Z06 or a ZR1 MODEL, but will have a RPO for a higher horsepower engine.
Hi Joe, pardon me for being a bit of a dweeberschnitzel, but WTF is RPO? Really Powerful Ottomobile?

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Originally Posted by The Dizzy Vizzy
Hi Joe, pardon me for being a bit of a dweeberschnitzel, but WTF is RPO? Really Powerful Ottomobile?

Regular Production Option
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Originally Posted by The Dizzy Vizzy
Hi Joe, pardon me for being a bit of a dweeberschnitzel, but WTF is RPO? Really Powerful Ottomobile?

RPO is a code for ordering upgrades.

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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Regular Production Option
Originally Posted by speedlink
RPO is a code for ordering upgrades.
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I have said this before, when ever I hear talk about a Z06 or the ZR1. A guy you meet on the street in the C7 show car says he is headed out to a test track to test the highly camouflaged Z06, then that is good enough for me. Come on I don't care if it a so called test driver, or a tire engineer, I will believe it it when I see it and GM confirms it.

I agree that they need a high performance Corvette that is in the neighborhood of 550-600 hp if they want to continue with the world class sports car. You cannot make statement that the new Corvette will be competitive with any of the brands out there which includes the Porsche and Ferrari as well as the Lamborghini and the Aston Martin. But does it have to be the Z06 or the ZR1. Nothing against either, but they could have something else in mind, and I hope it is next year, or Corvette image will suffer with a single car available rated at 450 hp.
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Originally Posted by BWF07
I have said this before, when ever I hear talk about a Z06 or the ZR1. A guy you meet on the street in the C7 show car says he is headed out to a test track to test the highly camouflaged Z06, then that is good enough for me. Come on I don't care if it a so called test driver, or a tire engineer, I will believe it it when I see it and GM confirms it.

I agree that they need a high performance Corvette that is in the neighborhood of 550-600 hp if they want to continue with the world class sports car. You cannot make statement that the new Corvette will be competitive with any of the brands out there which includes the Porsche and Ferrari as well as the Lamborghini and the Aston Martin. But does it have to be the Z06 or the ZR1. Nothing against either, but they could have something else in mind, and I hope it is next year, or Corvette image will suffer with a single car available rated at 450 hp.
That's about what I'm guessing..... around 550 to 600 HP with a supercharged engine(LT4?????) based on the LT1.


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