Less tech and more HP please!!
#21
Dont' get me wrong but I love the car and what we know about it so far but is seems like they should have packed in a little more HP. I read yesterday that the Mustang is coming out with an 850 HP version and it just seems like anything sub 550 HP (for example) is just lacking. I know we dont know final numbers and all but its hard to get excited when I hear about the HP.
Thoughts???
Thoughts???
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THANK YOU!!!!!! one of my origonal points here.......Even if just for bragging rights I think that HP ranks up there with a lot of folks.....I understand overall performance is where the corvette shines but I still want more HP at a cheaper price!
#23
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Everybody thinks they understand horsepower. More is better. That guy at the gas station is going to ask you two questions: How many horses? How fast will it go? (Then he might make a comment about gas mileage to make himself feel better.)
Corvette's answers might not impress him -- but he was impressed enough by the car to ask in the first place. Feel good about that.
I'm not so interested in the final horsepower figure as I am the review that compares its performance and the driving experience to the 911S.
.Jinx
Corvette's answers might not impress him -- but he was impressed enough by the car to ask in the first place. Feel good about that.
I'm not so interested in the final horsepower figure as I am the review that compares its performance and the driving experience to the 911S.
.Jinx
#24
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The cars it has to compete against is the Porsche, Ferrari Aston Martin The price of the cars has nothing to do with it. But the Corvette will always be judged by the other exotic sports cars, not the Mustang,, Dodge Challenger or Camaro.
We do not have any tiime's on the C7 yet as you are well aware of, but to compete with the Porsche, Ferrari, Viper, it will need to be in the low 3 second rand 0-60 and in the low 11's in the quarter mile. as that is what its competition is currently running.
What I was trying to get across is that I don't (and many others) believe that a 450 hp Corvette will not last long against it real competition. The next performance Corvette needs to come out as soon as possible.
#26
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I dont care if you can or cant hook up 600 hp to the wheels, if it comes in at 450....it is a ****** number. The 67-69 L88 Vettes layed down 450 hp....this is 2013 and we have the same HP ??
You could not get L88's or other early 427s to hook up but what a blast and they were King Kong on the roads.....The C7 will not be feared!
You could not get L88's or other early 427s to hook up but what a blast and they were King Kong on the roads.....The C7 will not be feared!
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I dont care if you can or cant hook up 600 hp to the wheels, if it comes in at 450....it is a ****** number. The 67-69 L88 Vettes layed down 450 hp....this is 2013 and we have the same HP ??
You could not get L88's or other early 427s to hook up but what a blast and they were King Kong on the roads.....The C7 will not be feared!
You could not get L88's or other early 427s to hook up but what a blast and they were King Kong on the roads.....The C7 will not be feared!
#28
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But do we really buy Vette's for MPG's ?
#29
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That is 100% correct. Corvette's and Mustang's are two completely different cars. I am sure you are aware that the Corvette is a sports car, the Mustang is a muscle car. I don't know if you are aware of this but Chevrolet produces a car called a Camaro. That is what they answer to the Mustang, not the Corvette. Therefore the Corvette is and will always be compared to the exotics. That is how GM wants it. It does not matter what the difference is in the cost, it is just the plain truth that Porsche, Ferrari, GTR and Viper will be the competition of the Corvette and that is what it has to be able to beat on the track and I am not referring to true race version, but I am referring to what comes out of Bowling Green. Right now I don't think that the 2014 C7 will be able to compete with any of these other cars except the base 911. Don't forget, they have always used either the Z06 or ZR1 when testing these cars against each other and the Corvette as test was close to or well over the $100K price tag.
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Dont' get me wrong but I love the car and what we know about it so far but is seems like they should have packed in a little more HP. I read yesterday that the Mustang is coming out with an 850 HP version and it just seems like anything sub 550 HP (for example) is just lacking. I know we dont know final numbers and all but its hard to get excited when I hear about the HP.
Thoughts???
Thoughts???
Now, about the Corvette. First, they're not completely done tweaking and testing it yet. They haven't built vin 00001 yet. The official specs are not in, the jury's still out.All we know is that it will be at least 450/450. Which, to have that under the hood and get nearly 30mpg highway, and the ability to comfortably drive it everyday, everywhere, anytime, for it's price point, isn't bad at all.
And really, when are you going to use anything close to 450 horses? But 450ft lbs will get you to the end of that entrance ramp pretty darn quick.
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All of this crying about HP in the C7. Nobody here has driven or rode in one yet, but the 450 number dosen't meet your standards. Where on todays highways with traffic do you think you can use this power? I wouldn't buy a Mustang no matter what the hp #'s are?
Park a Mustang next to a C7 and see what car gets all of the attention?
Why did the Grand Sport become the best selling Corvette model? It only has 436HP and the ZO6 has 505? If HP was so important the ZO6 should have been the sales leader?
Park a Mustang next to a C7 and see what car gets all of the attention?
Why did the Grand Sport become the best selling Corvette model? It only has 436HP and the ZO6 has 505? If HP was so important the ZO6 should have been the sales leader?
#33
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That is 100% correct. Corvette's and Mustang's are two completely different cars. I am sure you are aware that the Corvette is a sports car, the Mustang is a muscle car. I don't know if you are aware of this but Chevrolet produces a car called a Camaro. That is what they answer to the Mustang, not the Corvette. Therefore the Corvette is and will always be compared to the exotics. That is how GM wants it. It does not matter what the difference is in the cost, it is just the plain truth that Porsche, Ferrari, GTR and Viper will be the competition of the Corvette and that is what it has to be able to beat on the track and I am not referring to true race version, but I am referring to what comes out of Bowling Green. Right now I don't think that the 2014 C7 will be able to compete with any of these other cars except the base 911. Don't forget, they have always used either the Z06 or ZR1 when testing these cars against each other and the Corvette as test was close to or well over the $100K price tag.
The ZR1 is the one that kicks the exotics butt.
GM has different models of Corvettes, the base C7 is not the competition of some of these cars you are talking about, that car will come in time.............you have complained about everything about this car so far, and now another ridiculous, lack of knowledge post(s). Please post the track numbers of this car that you are saying won't be at all competitive?
Haters gonna hate.
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you can always add power later, you can't really bolt on the tech.
#38
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Better get use to it as the EPA doesn't have any regs covering the minimum horsepower a car can have , but does cover gas mileage and emissions with a heavy hand.
#39
I dont care if you can or cant hook up 600 hp to the wheels, if it comes in at 450....it is a ****** number. The 67-69 L88 Vettes layed down 450 hp....this is 2013 and we have the same HP ??
You could not get L88's or other early 427s to hook up but what a blast and they were King Kong on the roads.....The C7 will not be feared!
You could not get L88's or other early 427s to hook up but what a blast and they were King Kong on the roads.....The C7 will not be feared!
They were also running Leaded Gasoline which is the equivalent of 113 octane, got a whopping 7 or 8 mpgs. Which means less time to enjoy the goodies under the hood, come track day.
The engines themselves were unreliable, and failure prone due to the imprecise fuel delivery system, especially at anything less than WOT. The cooling systems sucked ***** as well. The ignition system also sucked hard core, as it was pre electronic ignition.
Oh and to top it all off? That was Gross Horsepower, not Net (which means After all Accessories is on the engine) nor was it SAE certified HP. If you were to use 60s HP ratings, an L98 TPI would tip the scales at 320 horse power.
The cars themselves were piles of crap in everything but the aesthetics department and would Murder You should you even think about getting into anything more mild than a fender bender, the fiber glass quality was craptastic.
And the car's steering, braking and handling blew chunks.
Also, given GTs track record of nailing factory specs, the C7 is probably going to be abit north of 450, the figure GT5 has given us is 468 hp IIRC. And this is the Base Model car.
People that keep comparing to the GT500 also forget, Ford ain't going to sell 10k to 30k of those GT500s every year. I don't think they even build that many of them.
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if you want more hp install a supercharger or turbo, problem solved.