LT1 Disappointment
#2
Melting Slicks
Many threads on this already.
Final numbers are not announced yet, they will be with the C7. Lets stop jumping to conclusions about a car based on a motor architecture announcement.
Low end torque numbers are as much as +50tq higher then the LS3, this will be an absolute kick in the pants... but hey lets look at peak numbers only. :rollseyes:
Final numbers are not announced yet, they will be with the C7. Lets stop jumping to conclusions about a car based on a motor architecture announcement.
Low end torque numbers are as much as +50tq higher then the LS3, this will be an absolute kick in the pants... but hey lets look at peak numbers only. :rollseyes:
#3
Burning Brakes
#4
Race Director
So, spoil your plans to buy one?
#5
Melting Slicks
#6
Safety Car
Actually it's better than I expected. Bottom line will be how does the car perform. Lap times, 1/4 mile etc. If it outperforms the C6 with the new interior etc it will be a hit.
#8
Melting Slicks
OK, I fell into the same trap by looking at the peak numbers initially and poo poo'ed the motor too. But look at the dyno print compared to an LS3, the average power and torque on this thing is head and shoulders above the LS3. You're only at peak power for a second, so this thing will perform like it has a lot more. Not to mention all that torque for low RPM day to day driving... It'll feel like a monster. And thats with a cam that's smaller than the LS3 cam. When the aftermarket catches up, do a cam swap and you'll have a hell of a performer.
#9
The comments in these C7 threads are some of the most ridiculous comments i have ever seen.
You know nothing more than only a few HP/TQ more and a little heavier. Such senseless comments. Wait till it comes out, and as stated look at the dyno graph there is much more that only an increase in TQ/HP the power band is much, much, better.
^Thank you as I was writing this you posed up a dyno graph! haha
You know nothing more than only a few HP/TQ more and a little heavier. Such senseless comments. Wait till it comes out, and as stated look at the dyno graph there is much more that only an increase in TQ/HP the power band is much, much, better.
^Thank you as I was writing this you posed up a dyno graph! haha
#10
Burning Brakes
I'm obviously willing to (and having to) wait until more final info is released, but I will say that if 450 hp does end up being the actual power figure, then unless there are some awesome revelations about the C7 in terms of weight, chassis upgrades, pricing, other features, etc, I probably will completely lose interest in this car.
EDIT: And yes I understand the benefits of an improved torque curve and whatnot. That's still not enough power.
EDIT: And yes I understand the benefits of an improved torque curve and whatnot. That's still not enough power.
#11
Team Owner
Many threads on this already.
Final numbers are not announced yet, they will be with the C7. Lets stop jumping to conclusions about a car based on a motor architecture announcement.
Low end torque numbers are as much as +50tq higher then the LS3, this will be an absolute kick in the pants... but hey lets look at peak numbers only.
Final numbers are not announced yet, they will be with the C7. Lets stop jumping to conclusions about a car based on a motor architecture announcement.
Low end torque numbers are as much as +50tq higher then the LS3, this will be an absolute kick in the pants... but hey lets look at peak numbers only.
#12
Safety Car
I'm obviously willing to (and having to) wait until more final info is released, but I will say that if 450 hp does end up being the actual power figure, then unless there are some awesome revelations about the C7 in terms of weight, chassis upgrades, pricing, other features, etc, I probably will completely lose interest in this car.
EDIT: And yes I understand the benefits of an improved torque curve and whatnot. That's still not enough power.
EDIT: And yes I understand the benefits of an improved torque curve and whatnot. That's still not enough power.
#14
Melting Slicks
#15
copied here with no commentary. just to indicate how far we have come and the potential of this platform...
When introduced in the 1997 Corvette the LS1 was rated at 345 hp (257 kW) at 5,600 rpm and 350 lbf·ft (470 N·m) at 4,400 rpm.
#16
Burning Brakes
I might just buy one of the remaining C6's on a dealer lot on the cheap if the final figures aren't better. Why spend 50% more for ~5% more performance?
Well of course it'll be faster than my car. What's your point? I fully expect it to be... I just expected it to be even faster. Besides which, at ~320 bhp (after a couple minor mods), my car isn't THAT far behind. It's not like I'm coming from a Prius or something.
Last edited by RocketGuy3; 10-25-2012 at 02:18 PM.
#18
Team Owner
#20
Team Owner
I don't know why people keep bringing up higher end models. Even the base model should have more power than that. By "not enough", I mostly mean relative to my expectations of a next gen Corvette. It's also a bit underwhelming relative to value-priced performance cars in other classes. Obviously this thing will outrun any of those cars around a track, but it just leaves you with the feeling that they should have been capable of getting more juice into that motor.
I might just buy one of the remaining C6's on a dealer lot on the cheap if the final figures aren't better. Why spend 50% more for ~5% more performance?
Well of course it'll be faster than my car. What's your point? I fully expect it to be... I just expected it to be even faster. Besides which, at ~320 bhp (after a couple minor mods), my car isn't THAT far behind. It's not like I'm coming from a Prius or something.
I might just buy one of the remaining C6's on a dealer lot on the cheap if the final figures aren't better. Why spend 50% more for ~5% more performance?
Well of course it'll be faster than my car. What's your point? I fully expect it to be... I just expected it to be even faster. Besides which, at ~320 bhp (after a couple minor mods), my car isn't THAT far behind. It's not like I'm coming from a Prius or something.
Sure, you can purchase a left over C6 for a lot less then a new C7 will sell for in the first few months of production, but the MSRP of the new C7 will be very close to the MSRP of the outgoing 2013.
Last edited by JoesC5; 10-25-2012 at 02:26 PM.