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Old 02-16-2013, 08:01 AM
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My ipad will not let me copy and paste the link but if you google "corvette C7 and jay leno" there will be a video. This video has them taling the C7 in red to Jay Lenos Garage to film a segment and when Ed Wellburn is walking around the car with Jay he says " this car will have 450hp". He doesnt say " at least" or " around" or "minimum" he flat out admits only 450 hp. Pathetic.
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Originally Posted by SSTTUUDD
My ipad will not let me copy and paste the link but if you google "corvette C7 and jay leno" there will be a video. This video has them taling the C7 in red to Jay Lenos Garage to film a segment and when Ed Wellburn is walking around the car with Jay he says " this car will have 450hp". He doesnt say " at least" or " around" or "minimum" he flat out admits only 450 hp. Pathetic.
Don't believe it ......... Final numbers will come once they start production. GM is still tinkering with things. That's why the test mules are still running around in AZ. Btw, go to the Apple store in Houston. They will show you how to cut and paste on an iPad.
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Sounds like slip of tongue. Wouldn't put stock in it. If he'd said 463 or something it would be notable.

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The last I heard the C7 HP numbers were not available. I think the 450 / 450 is simply an at least set of numbers. For sure, GM has a good basis for giving out these numbers. Going back a few years, if I remember correctly, when the C6 ZR1 was to come out didnt Autoweek say 600HP and the final HP numbers after all the testing was 638. So, I am just sitting back and waiting for all the testing and certification to come in with the final numbers ...
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My ipad will not let me copy and paste the link but if you google "corvette C7 and jay leno" there will be a video. This video has them taling the C7 in red to Jay Lenos Garage to film a segment and when Ed Wellburn is walking around the car with Jay he says " this car will have 450hp". He doesnt say " at least" or " around" or "minimum" he flat out admits only 450 hp. Pathetic.
What's Pathetic??? I think I missed something.
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My ipad will not let me copy and paste the link but if you google "corvette C7 and jay leno" there will be a video. This video has them taling the C7 in red to Jay Lenos Garage to film a segment and when Ed Wellburn is walking around the car with Jay he says " this car will have 450hp". He doesnt say " at least" or " around" or "minimum" he flat out admits only 450 hp. Pathetic.
First, Ed Welburn is NOT the CEO of GM, he is the styling/design director. Second, as styling/design director, he is not the one to KNOW about the final HP number. If one of the powertrain directors stated a flat "450 HP", then you could storm the castle.

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Originally Posted by SSTTUUDD
My ipad will not let me copy and paste the link but if you google "corvette C7 and jay leno" there will be a video. This video has them taling the C7 in red to Jay Lenos Garage to film a segment and when Ed Wellburn is walking around the car with Jay he says " this car will have 450hp". He doesnt say " at least" or " around" or "minimum" he flat out admits only 450 hp. Pathetic.
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Originally Posted by SSTTUUDD
My ipad will not let me copy and paste the link but if you google "corvette C7 and jay leno" there will be a video. This video has them taling the C7 in red to Jay Lenos Garage to film a segment and when Ed Wellburn is walking around the car with Jay he says " this car will have 450hp". He doesnt say " at least" or " around" or "minimum" he flat out admits only 450 hp. Pathetic.
I don't understand what all this belly-aching over "only" 450hp is for.

1) When the C5 was introduced, it had 20hp over the LT4, and some reports stated that it wasn't even that much.

2) The C5 had pretty much the same base powerplant ratings for eight model years (small bump on '01). C6? Not so much...

3) The C6 had 50 more hp than the outgoing base C5 engine when it was introduced. Using those numbers, the C7 DID get a 50hp bump. but wait, there's more!

4) The LS2 was available for three model years (05-07), when the LS3 was introduced with 30 more horsepower. That suddenly becomes the new benchmark? If that power bump hadn't happened, I doubt that we'd be having this discussion.

5) One last thing: Just be glad that the base-model power rating didn't drop or stay flat. I don't think we will be so lucky next time.
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I don't understand what all this belly-aching over "only" 450hp is for.

1) When the C5 was introduced, it had 20hp over the LT4, and some reports stated that it wasn't even that much.

2) The C5 had pretty much the same base powerplant ratings for eight model years (small bump on '01). C6? Not so much...

3) The C6 had 50 more hp than the outgoing base C5 engine when it was introduced. Using those numbers, the C7 DID get a 50hp bump. but wait, there's more!

4) The LS2 was available for three model years (05-07), when the LS3 was introduced with 30 more horsepower. That suddenly becomes the new benchmark? If that power bump hadn't happened, I doubt that we'd be having this discussion.

5) One last thing: Just be glad that the base-model power rating didn't drop or stay flat. I don't think we will be so lucky next time.
Well said! I agree completely! 450HP if that's what it turns out to be is a great starting point. After all, we are talking about a base model. Pathetic that is NOT!

People get so hung up on the number but what really matters is how that power is put to use and taken advantage of. All the power in the world is meaningless if you can't put it to the ground. There will be cars with 100 more HP on the streets that won't accelerate like the Corvette.

An old saying comes to mind. It's not what you got but instead, how you use it.

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Jay also said 6 speed.... You can't take everything in this video as "fact." The truth is, we don't know the numbers yet, but they are likely to be more then 450. I firmly believe they will be more then 450. Just have to wait and see
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I'll take an LS7 over this new LT1 any day!
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If only there was an IQ requirement before someone was allowed to create a thread...
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If only there was an IQ requirement before someone was allowed to create a thread...
Yeah but come on man, it takes away the fun of getting to say "i want my click back" or IWMCB

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Originally Posted by SSTTUUDD
My ipad will not let me copy and paste the link but if you google "corvette C7 and jay leno" there will be a video. This video has them taling the C7 in red to Jay Lenos Garage to film a segment and when Ed Wellburn is walking around the car with Jay he says " this car will have 450hp". He doesnt say " at least" or " around" or "minimum" he flat out admits only 450 hp. Pathetic.
If they introduce this car with 450hp sales will take a dive by the end of the first year. GM might actually be dumb enough to do it too
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They're probably waiting until 80% or more of the remaining Z06's on the lots are sold until they announce that the C7 will have 475+ horsepower. They're probably thinking they remaining Z06's wont move if the horsepower of the C7 is too close and the cost is $15,000 less...and they'd be right.
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IMO, if the car comes out with "only" 450 hp it will sell just fine. There's enough pent up demand for a new vette.

I do agree with others that have opined that if were to come out with hp approaching 500hp it would be a big boost to its prospects, tho; you'd have Z-06 guys looking at it now as opposed to waiting for a higher perf model.
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Jimmy, i didn't think he was CEO either but Jay introduced him as such.....


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First, Ed Welburn is NOT the CEO of GM, he is the styling/design director. Second, as styling/design director, he is not the one to KNOW about the final HP number. If one of the powertrain directors stated a flat "450 HP", then you could storm the castle.

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Gonzo, you may think 450 is great or not as you are entitled. However, I am also entitled to my opinion and I think 450 would be pathetic and a huge letdown




QUOTE=Gonzo;1583136820]What's Pathetic??? I think I missed something.[/QUOTE]
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Ed Welburn isn't the CEO of GM. Mr. Welburn is the Global V.P. of Design. He is basically the head of interior and exterior styling efforts. He doesn't really have a lot to do with the mechanical features of the car, only with approving integration of them within the design goals. Plan on the likelihood that he simply mis-spoke and should have said, estimated.

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