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Old 03-23-2013, 10:48 AM
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If they are serving a real cooling purpose then why is the Convertible without them?
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Originally Posted by Torch2013C6
If they are serving a real cooling purpose then why is the Convertible without them?
the vert has them, just feeding from underneath the car supposedly. Not sure why the coupe has them on top other than the C6R needed NACA ducts for cooling and had to perform drastic car surgery to put them in. They look cool? Maybe they're more efficient on top and Chevy figures that coupes are more likely to see severe track duty than ragtops?
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Originally Posted by Torch2013C6
If they are serving a real cooling purpose then why is the Convertible without them?
I'm guessing they needed the room to accommodate the top & mechanisms. I hear the C7 vert has vents on the bottom to bring cooling air up from the bottom.
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Originally Posted by Torch2013C6
If they are serving a real cooling purpose then why is the Convertible without them?
They are serving a real cooling purpose in the Z51 packaged cars. One side there is a differential cooler, the other a transmission fluid cooler. Only the Z51 car comes equipped with those coolers, however. The convertible probably doesn't have them because it doesn't have the tranny and diff coolers.
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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77
They are serving a real cooling purpose in the Z51 packaged cars. One side there is a differential cooler, the other a transmission fluid cooler. Only the Z51 car comes equipped with those coolers, however. The convertible probably doesn't have them because it doesn't have the tranny and diff coolers.
If I heard Tadge correctly in the Sebring video, you'll be able to buy a Z51 ragtop. The transmission cooler is only for automatic equipped cars, eLSD comes with the Z51 option regardless of transmission. Or that was the info from the early Autoweek interview videos.
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Originally Posted by dmporter31
If I heard Tadge correctly in the Sebring video, you'll be able to buy a Z51 ragtop. The transmission cooler is only for automatic equipped cars, eLSD comes with the Z51 option regardless of transmission. Or that was the info from the early Autoweek interview videos.
It was probably from the Autoweek video. If something changed, then I'm behind in the latest info
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To bad they had to ditch them on the convertible because thats one feature I really like. Makes the car look sporty.
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Originally Posted by Torch2013C6
To bad they had to ditch them on the convertible because thats one feature I really like. Makes the car look sporty.
I like how they look also but, if they don't serve a purpose, why bother?
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Originally Posted by Torch2013C6
To bad they had to ditch them on the convertible because thats one feature I really like. Makes the car look sporty.
And it doesn't look "sporty" without them? (full discosure, I like them as well).

Just bustin' chops, but your statement reminded me of when my dad ordering a luggage rack on his Pontiac Bonneville because "...it makes it look sporty."
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Keep in mind that the transmission cooler and the differential cooler and brakes, etc. do NOT need cooling unless you are tracking the car. I find it interesting that anyone would pay for the Z51 package on a convertible since they are not normally allowed on tracks. However, even if you don't track your car, I can understand the purchase of the Z51 on a coupe for the purpose of future change of mind or resale to someone who does track. Otherwise, a more comfortable ride and less cost make more sense.
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Originally Posted by robvuk
Keep in mind that the transmission cooler and the differential cooler and brakes, etc. do NOT need cooling unless you are tracking the car. I find it interesting that anyone would pay for the Z51 package on a convertible since they are not normally allowed on tracks. However, even if you don't track your car, I can understand the purchase of the Z51 on a coupe for the purpose of future change of mind or resale to someone who does track. Otherwise, a more comfortable ride and less cost make more sense.
100%.

If you really like a bit crisper handling on the street, you should be able to get the suspension/wheel/tire upgrades without shelling out for all the track stuff. (Isn't dry sump also in the Z51? That can't be cheap.) Maybe you can, I have not read the options list in detail like some folks have...
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Originally Posted by Torch Z
100%.

If you really like a bit crisper handling on the street, you should be able to get the suspension/wheel/tire upgrades without shelling out for all the track stuff. (Isn't dry sump also in the Z51? That can't be cheap.) Maybe you can, I have not read the options list in detail like some folks have...
Don't forget eLSD also.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Don't forget eLSD also.
There's a couple jokes in here which I will not attempt...
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Originally Posted by dmporter31
the vert has them, just feeding from underneath the car supposedly. Not sure why the coupe has them on top other than the C6R needed NACA ducts for cooling and had to perform drastic car surgery to put them in. They look cool? Maybe they're more efficient on top and Chevy figures that coupes are more likely to see severe track duty than ragtops?
As I understand it, the vents are more efficient located at the top, cooler, cleaner air. But according to the interview with the designer, in order to accomidate the neccessary equipment for the vert, they had to move them underneath.

The quarter vents on the coupe are non-functional on the non-z51 cars btw.
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Originally Posted by lt4obsesses
As I understand it, the vents are more efficient located at the top, cooler, cleaner air. But according to the interview with the designer, in order to accomidate the neccessary equipment for the vert, they had to move them underneath.

The quarter vents on the coupe are non-functional on the non-z51 cars btw.
really?
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Also....I will add that the vents take the dirty air from the rearview mirrors and suck it into the fender and out the tail lights, that way the spoiler gets clean air and works better. With clean air the small spoiler will = more down force...with out the vents you will need a bigger spoiler to get the same down force; but a bigger spoiler =more drag. This is a great way to work smarter not harder.....The Vert had a different roof shape so the aero comes 2nd to fit, weight, ease of operation and so on.
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Originally Posted by lt4obsesses
As I understand it, the vents are more efficient located at the top, cooler, cleaner air. But according to the interview with the designer, in order to accomidate the neccessary equipment for the vert, they had to move them underneath.

The quarter vents on the coupe are non-functional on the non-z51 cars btw.
I remember reading somewhere that on non-Z51 cars there are no vents.

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Originally Posted by robvuk
Keep in mind that the transmission cooler and the differential cooler and brakes, etc. do NOT need cooling unless you are tracking the car. I find it interesting that anyone would pay for the Z51 package on a convertible since they are not normally allowed on tracks. However, even if you don't track your car, I can understand the purchase of the Z51 on a coupe for the purpose of future change of mind or resale to someone who does track. Otherwise, a more comfortable ride and less cost make more sense.
Automatic transmission equipped cars require a transmission cooler on the street. So, the coupe and the convertible has to have a transmission cooler if it is equipped with an automatic transmission, with or without the Z51 option, on or off the track. The question is...why are the top mounted fender vents needed on an automatic transmission coupe, but not on an automatic transmission convertible? Form over function maybe?
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Originally Posted by GentleBen
I remember reading somewhere that on non-Z51 cars there are no vents.
There are vents on all the coupes but they're non-functional without the Z51 package IIRC. Personally, I could live without them but if that's what comes on the coupe then so be it.
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Originally Posted by dmporter31
There are vents on all the coupes but they're non-functional without the Z51 package IIRC. Personally, I could live without them but if that's what comes on the coupe then so be it.
Only if the coupe has a manual transmission and without Z51 are both vents non-functional. If the coupe has an automatic transmission, with or without Z51, it has at least one of the vents functional.

The convertible proves that the rear fender vents are not needed and are only a gimmick to give the car a "boy racer" look for the teenagers.

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