new Z28 to have naturally aspirated engine with 500HP, shouldn't the vette have more

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03-28-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ldepalma

I think the C7 will have 500 hp but it will come in 300-400 pounds lighter then a Camaro and a Camaro is no Vette. I had both. The Vette will out perform a Camaro any day of the week and twice on race day Sunday.

You are correct. The current convertible 427 C6 does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds.

Althought GM won't reveal any hp figures, they guarantee it'll get to 60 in LESS THAN 4 seconds. That means 3.9 seconds at MOST.

Same weight as LS7 powered vette, same 0-60. Translation: 500 hp minimum for the LT1.

I've said it before. Nobody listens.

Back to your bitching about the hp figures now - heads back into sand.

03-28-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Minkster

Can't find that 7:38 record for a ZR1 on their site...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...eife_lap_times

03-28-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BuddhaZ06

I'd take a 3700lb z28 with 500+ hp over a 3500lb 450+hp c7. Especially since its a purpose built track car.

I think GM is banking on that, selling a few Z28s to would-be C7 buyers to "hold them over" until the higher end C7 comes out.

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Originally Posted by ldepalma

I think the C7 will have 500 hp but it will come in 300-400 pounds lighter then a Camaro and a Camaro is no Vette. I had both. The Vette will out perform a Camaro any day of the week and twice on race day Sunday.

Baller!!! How much did you pay exactly for the C7 and Z28 since they are not realeased to the public yet?

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Originally Posted by JockItch

This Z/28 is more than just a Camaro with an LS7 stuffed in it, read up on it. It's no joke. While its no flyweight, even with the much needed weight reduction, this car is going to surprise a lot of people on the track.

And thank you Ford for making the Boss and forcing Chevy's hand

03-28-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

If you look at the ZR1 trimes at 7.38, the track length was the same as the ZL1 and there was a whole 3 seconds difference over a 13 mile course. Your stats are defeating you...lol.

That 7:38 was from the German magazine Sport Auto's supertest:
http://www.sportauto.de/supertest/co...l-1415542.html

In their test of the F430 Scuderia, editor Horst von Saurma describes his method:

2 laps done during the tourist session for acclimatization and photoshooting
3 timed laps later on the closed course

According to discussions on various forums involving people close to Sport Auto, it's really only 2 flying timed laps, as the first is for getting the tires and brakes up to temperature, and probing the limits of the car. The 3 laps is for the benefit of brakes and tires; some cars fall off rapidly on the Nordschleife as each lap is very long. The general consensus is that von Saurma always leaves a little bit on the table. Pro racing driver Sascha Bert later drove that same Ferrari 458 with a passenger on board, over the full 20.8km circuit, 6 seconds faster than von Saurma.

Sport Auto's procedure is very different from a GM engineer who spends hours upon hours getting to know the car. That time was for the ZR1 on PS2 tires. Not the latest ZR1 with aero revisions, better gearing, and the Cup tires.

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03-28-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Do you have a link to your thoughts about how they were started. I guess what you're saying is the ZL1 was started differently than any Corvette tested? On the list the ZL1 is faster than one ZR1 just below it, which doesn't exactly support your position.

Are we seriously having this discussion? Does anyone really believe that a ZL1 is faster than a ZR1 stock vs stock?

03-28-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jawnathin

From Wikipedia. I presume Sport Auto is a magazine that ran the tests.

Apparently this Horst von Saurma guy can only run 7:38s...

7:38 Lexus LFA Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
7:38 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
7:38 Nissan GT-R Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
7:38 Ferrari 458 Italia Horst von Saurma Sport Auto

Man, that guy likes running the ring in7 minutes 38 seconds