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If Jim Mero has truly done a 2:50 - 2:51 at VIR

Old 04-29-2013, 11:35 AM
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Default If Jim Mero has truly done a 2:50 - 2:51 at VIR

If Jim Mero really has lapped the VIR at 2:50 -2:51 or even 2:52 look where that puts the C7 on the Lightning Lap List. Add a couple seconds per lap for the Car and Driver test drivers and this C7 is still a rocketship.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...o-2013-page-10
Scroll down to The Tale Of The Tape

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Jim Mero's ZR1 time at VIR (2:45) was ~5 sec faster than the C&D lightning lap time so I would take than into account when comparing his lap times to the C&D lap times. You can see a similar difference in time with the factory Camaro ZL1 time; 2:52 for Chevy (Arron Link) vs 2:57 for C&D.

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Originally Posted by racerns
Jim Mero's ZR1 time at VIR (2:45) was ~5 sec faster than the C&D lightning lap time so I would take than into account when comparing his lap times to the C&D lap times.
Yes certainly, but listening to the video it sure sounded like the track was real dirty and not rubbered in like it would have been during the 2 day Car and Driver test. I always wondered why the second ZR1 time was not proportionally faster than the first time since the Ring times were significantly different.

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I think I could do it in 3:48..well maybe 4:54
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
I think I could do it in 3:48..well maybe 4:54
Oh come on Bill, we know you could do it faster than that.
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Originally Posted by skank
Oh come on Bill, we know you could do it faster than that.
Bill factored in having to make a pit stop to take a leak, half way around the course.
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I went to a four day driving school at Mid Ohio. I suck. But I am good a beating taxi cabs through the city..
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Bill factored in having to make a pit stop to take a leak, half way around the course.
What? They set these records at NIGHT?
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Bill factored in having to make a pit stop to take a leak, half way around the course.
Thats funny !!!!
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Originally Posted by skank
I always wondered why the second ZR1 time was not proportionally faster than the first time since the Ring times were significantly different.
Part of the time lost is on the final straight. If you watch the 7:26 run, Mero shifts while he is ascending the uphill portion of the straight. He hovers at the same rpm for several seconds, and even loses about 3 mph right after the shift. A strong headwind was cited as a factor. In the 7:19 video, he completes his shift well before the gradient even begins and he gains speed all the way throughout the straight.
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
What? They set these records at NIGHT?
This'll help lower those times!
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Originally Posted by skank
I always wondered why the second ZR1 time was not proportionally faster than the first time since the Ring times were significantly different.
Track conditions. When C&D tested the ZR1 w/ Cup tires they had rain for most of the days they were at the track for the Lightning Lap. They only got to do only a limited amount of dry laps. You can look at the split times and speeds from the test of the '12 vs '10 and you can see that the '10 had faster straigth away speeds than the '12. This means driver or conditions difference. That being said I still think Mero runs 2-3 sec a lap faster than the best C&D is going to get.
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Originally Posted by racerns
Track conditions. When C&D tested the ZR1 w/ Cup tires they had rain for most of the days they were at the track for the Lightning Lap. They only got to do only a limited amount of dry laps. You can look at the split times and speeds from the test of the '12 vs '10 and you can see that the '10 had faster straigth away speeds than the '12. This means driver or conditions difference. That being said I still think Mero runs 2-3 sec a lap faster than the best C&D is going to get.
So if you add 2-3 seconds to a 2:51, it will still be in the 2:53-2:55 range with the Car and Driver test drivers. An amazing time regardless. Looking at the list there are some pretty amazing cars at those times.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
This'll help lower those times!
THANKS! Do they make a regular one or are all of them SUPER.. I have a small small problem.. That super may not fit....my needs
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Originally Posted by Guibo
Part of the time lost is on the final straight. If you watch the 7:26 run, Mero shifts while he is ascending the uphill portion of the straight. He hovers at the same rpm for several seconds, and even loses about 3 mph right after the shift. A strong headwind was cited as a factor. In the 7:19 video, he completes his shift well before the gradient even begins and he gains speed all the way throughout the straight.
Guibo, I was actually referring to the VIR time differential by the C&D guys.
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
THANKS! Do they make a regular one or are all of them SUPER.. I have a small small problem.. That super may not fit....my needs
IDK, I just saw Joe Theisman's commercials.
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There's a real possibility of a 2:52-2:53 time which would be incredible.

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BTW, I did ask official GM media guy and he said they have NO official C7 track times to release yet.
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Well that would make it just as fast as the Nissan GTR.....

Notice how I cast that bait right out there? LOL
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Originally Posted by 1320vetteran
Well that would make it just as fast as the Nissan GTR.....

Notice how I cast that bait right out there? LOL
I saw what you did there...

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