RC000E

Before some of you haters pop up about gaming...just stuff it. Gaming has evolved from your era of pong, hoola hoop, slap ***...or kick the can...whatever you old guys did back then.... Anyway...these games have military grade money invested to simulate everything; suspension geometry/movement, traction coefficients, physics, etc. The guys went to the moon on less technology than these games have. These games and the OEM's make money together...it's here...it works...IRacing is worldwide and racecar drivers use it...the end.

On to my point...

Jan 14 released the C7 via GT5. Some of you know, I'm an avid and highly competitive GT5 guy (funny that someone disappeared, as I predicted, after the Nurburgring GT5 "incident" on here). I've driven the series since it release on PS1...I just love the sh*t. Essentially it's a means to clear my head and just drive (and not get pulled over as I so often do).

Anyway...at the last bash I showed Jim Mero, as well as Harlan Charles (and a few others) my Nurburgring videos vs Jim Mero, in the C7, etc. I wanted to give them feedback on how that promotional tactic grabbed someone in my demographic, etc. They were actually pretty impressed.

So, today, as is usual, I'm clearing my head of opening this bar/grill that I'm ***** deep in this week, by driving Cote De Azur in the C7 today. So, there in the screen it hits me....jeez...they were dead on with the weight from Jan 14th...it's been staring us in the face. 1500kg. I was a paramedic in my early 20's, so a quick conversion (as we did with meds) in my head told me 3300lbs...there it was...all along. We just didn't know to believe it because it was such a round number...but there it was...dead accurate essentially since Jan 14.

So then...I look at hp.

464hp/6000rpm
475ftlbs/4500rpm

If those numbers turn out to be true (I imagine 465hp/475tq would be good round numbers)...there it was....all along...

BlueOx

Good catch. Certainly seems reasonable.
But why do they keep calling it a "Final Prototype"?

Jawnathin

But the displacement is unknown

FWIW, I think we've gone down this path before.

RC000E

The interesting part is, when you buy the car in the game...it comes with the 450/450 output like we've all been fed since any hint of numbers released. The ONLY thing you can do to the car in the game though, is change the oil...which gives you the number I posted. Seems very plausible.

I must say though

2013 Corvette

430 hp @ 5,900 rpm; 424 ft lb of torque @ 4,600 rpm

2014 Corvette

465 hp @ 6,000 rpm; 475 ft lb of torque @ 4500 rpm


If this turns out to be the case...then on what day of the week is that not the car to buy! Hate on haters!!! Keep those blinders on!

ed1

Sounds good to me and if it turns out to be true all I can do is laugh.

OnPoint

Would be kind of funny if that's how it turns out.

ByByBMW

That torque number is the Z06 torque IIRC.

RC000E

Well, the only other car the Gran Turismo series has ever really hyped to this extent is the GTR.

When looking at the GTR, they did the same approach. They did the concept, the final prototype, then the actual production car after its release date.

"Prototype" gives it non finality and gives them deniability if anything changes...and I really think that is due to the hp output figure they put on it. When the car releases, and GT5 releases the update, then the car, when you purchase it, will have the OEM advertised output without the oil change. The car could exhibit even more capability though, when they release the final.

I know people doubt this game, but you can truly FEEL the difference in cars through this game when playing with the wheel. They really replicate the driving experience pretty damn well.

RC000E

Actually, (quick google), 2013 Z06 advertised

all 505 hp at 6,300 rpm and 470 lb-ft of torque at 4800 rpm

Big Dan 427

So if it's 455hp and 465ft lbs it won't be the car to buy any day of the week? Seems like a stir pot statement all the way through.

B-Myster

speedlink

Maybe my guess was right in February. 465-475HP.

Hope your right RC. 465 would be great!

BlueOx

Thanks for the answer. I'm NOT a gamer but think GM marketing hit a home run with their association with GT5.

RC000E

I say that for the people who are motivated to buy based on what's engraved in the fender badge, or on the dash plaque.

When Jim Mero said its smokes the Grand Sport at VIR, I was convinced already. The number that sells me the car is the Nurburgring time...put that on my fender badge please...

RC000E

I will even say this Ox...when I talked to Jim Mero, I communicated my perceptions of how the car drove in the game vs the C6Z and he told me I was DEAD ON. My perception was it feels lighter with much more crisp steering, it's VERY responsive so the torque is quite noticeable, the braking isn't QUITE C6Z territory, but I think that is more due to the tire and ability to direct the car is much better...you can tell the weight balance changed to a slight rear bias.

It validated what I really already felt about GT5 and simulations of this type. They must get an incredible amount of data from the OEM's to simulate it so well. I suspect they likely get the entire CAD like keeks had gotten hold of....suspension, body...everything.

BTW Ox...the thing is called final prototype as well because it only has a 6spd manual...no 7.

BlueOx

Makes sense and sounds good. After listening to Mero's video at the Bash, I got the same message about drivability. I can only guess how much different driving it with that much torque and better steering will be.

Zymurgy

yenko boy

I would be impressed if those numbers are real...

Turbooo2u

Question for the OP. What is the best wheel for GT5? I'm using the Logitech G-Force wheel and it doesn't seem that accurate.

RC000E

I use the G27 Logitech, but it does leave a lot to be desired to be REALLY fast. In the last Nurburgring competition online, out of 965,000 qualifying times, I was 627th IIRC (Top 50 in the US). The last 4 seconds between me and the top 100 are simply due to the lack of accuracy in the G27...there is a margin of "smoothness" I cannot achieve with the wheel, thus costing me time.

The bottom line is...if you wanna get serious...the Fanatec high end sh*t is the way to go. That's my next purchase.

It's an interesting fact because, that is very much how the C7 would compare to the C6. The C6 is much the Logitec G27 vs the C7 being something like the Fanatec stuff....more accurate, communicates the tire to the hand better, "point and shoot" the car better, etc