Originally Posted by JustinStrife

I never expected the C7 to come out with 500hp. I never expected the C7 to be as fast or faster than a C6z06. I expected it to be faster than a base C6. It is. I expected it to compete or beat a C6 GS. It does. I expected the power to be between an Ls3 and an LS7. It is. I knew it would have a pushrod V8. I also knew it would still be RWD and offer a manual transmission.

Too many people on this forum had expectations that were not realistic.

Originally Posted by TTRotary

Nonsense. That's YOUR personal paranoia. Hence the irresistible need for you and a small group of others to engage in constant attempts at damage control against this perceived threat, which generally takes the form of trying to discredit or name-call other posters for lack of a better response on your part. For the 50-th time: there is no such thing as a wrong opinion.

Complaining and/or voicing dissatisfaction by owners is the only way a brand can improve. And the only complainers will by definition be those who care most about the car. Porsche guys don't complain about the C7 rear because they don't GAFF about the Corvette. They have no intention of ever buying one.

I remember when people attacked those who dared complain about the crappy seats in the C6, largely for the same fear motive you have. Guess what? Tadge now admits they were a weak point and the C7 is vastly improved in that area. If we did it your way, the brand would never progress.

So you can hope all you want, but I will not stop complaining and voicing my opinion - EVER, and I have every right to do that. The rear sucks IMO, and it is clear by now that a large plurality, to use a polling term, love the rest of the car but are not thrilled about the back. Perhaps if enough noise is made, they will change it.

And I care because I have and would like to continue to support the brand. Or to put it your way: what about those who like their C6 and would like to get a C7.

I hope you can get your head around what I'm saying here - but if not - it was worth a try and now you know that the "whining" will not stop.

Originally Posted by TTRotary

To each his own. I'm all about the performance. I'm not going to be very happy if I have to look at the tailllights of yesterday's news while driving today's news... Especially when "yesterday's news" looks like Crossofiron's pic... beautiful car.

Originally Posted by Big Dan 427

Let me respond in kind! I got into this thread at post 24, if you read from there on tell me honestly if you think I was bashing the car or a person until I did so in return. To my point, too many defenders of the C7 start the crap and once it starts it spirals out of control. that being said to tell someone they cannot voice their opinion on a forum just b/c they may never buy the product is BS. I can't imagine anyone being threatened by a car gthal, and the C6 regret stuff is just silly. If they were out I could buy five C7's, I'd rather have one GT3RS though or my 427 for that matter, it's not anything other than personal choice. You need to address the defenders as to why they get all touchy if the 7 is questioned!

Originally Posted by thebrander

So in 2017 maybe we should expect the Stingray to come with 480hp?

Originally Posted by Turbooo2u

When the 'hood gawks at my slammed red Z coming down the street, I don't think they're saying, "yesterday's news".

Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette

Those who aren't satisfied with 455 wouldn't be satisfied with the additional 45 horses to get it to 500. Depending on the circles, 500 is ho hum as well. Despite "just" 455 hp, the increase in torque will make this a very fun street Vette.

Originally Posted by rad928music

The BaseC4 had 300HP (250 hp early Versions)
The Base C5 350hp (I think).
The Base C6 400 hp
The Base C7 (they are saying) is 450hp +/-

I see a pattern of Increments of 50 hp +/-

Originally Posted by Hemi Dave

Since you have no idea what the C7 performance is this is just an insane guess.......no?????

Originally Posted by BlueOx

What about the many of us who have and like our C6's and do want a C7?

Originally Posted by Snorman

I have no beef with you. But it's funny how you play this "who me?" routine yet are constantly involved in a large portion of the dust ups in this section. It seems like it would be easier to state your opinions and move along rather than constantly trying to reiterate your points in thread after thread. Perhaps those who are getting annoyed are simply tired of seeing it while using this forum to gather info on the C7.

Your comment in this thread about GM giving out Volt loaners "when" C7's are recalled is a clear attempt to stir the pot.

And finally, I am not really sure how the fact that you "could buy five C7's" is relevant.

S.

Originally Posted by JoesC5

Don't you realize that a dreamer dreams, even when faced with facts. Some still believe that the magic number will be 496, even in the face of reality. Notice that they will believe the horsepower claims from any source outside of GM, but won't believe it when actually posted by GM on their site.

Some of the dreamers have come to terms with the horsepower and are now playing it down, saying it's still a great number, even though in the past, they strongly voiced their opinion that since another engine in GM's lineup, got such and such horsepower increase, then the LT1 would get the same percentage horsepower increase over the LS3. All of a sudden 450HP(est) and now posted by GM as 455 HP, is nothing short of perfection. Funny how the C7 needed to have C6 Z06 horsepower last month, but now 455 horsepower is plenty adequate to blow the doors off the C6 Z06 even with the C7 hauling around the extra weight the C6 Z06 doesn't have.

No different than with the C7's weight. Seems that those that had a strong opinion that the weight savings that GM was broadcasting back in January was going to make the C7 the lightest Corvette ever(and thus the greatest Corvette ever as light weight was paramount in having great handling c
ar), suddenly started saying that weight meant nothing and with a gain of 100 pounds over the C6, the C7 was going to be the greatest since it had MORE weight.

Same goes with the exterior dimensions of the C7. Many were claiming the C7 was going to be smaller than the C6 and that would make the C7 a superior car over the C6. But when the C7 was released as a larger car, they then started saying that a car's size didn't mean anything, etc, etc, etc.

Originally Posted by VETTEMANN

I have no problem with people who are 'bi' ...sorry, just not for me OX

Originally Posted by BlueOx

OoooK

Originally Posted by JustinStrife

At some point, you're going to see the hp on base cars plateau. Does anyone here think you're going to get 600hp base C9's or C10's?

More chances of these cars ending up in ditches...

Originally Posted by b4i4getit

All true.
Its funny how irrational some people will get on this forum. When GM said the LT1 would be at least 450 HP that told me that worst case it would be 450 HP. It did not mean it would be 500 HP. But people like to dream and now they have to wake up. Its going to be painful for some of them.