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Old 05-28-2013, 03:51 PM
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If it traps 120mph in the quarter, all will be forgiven

I just dyno'd 431whp/440wtq in my nearly stock LS3, and I trapped 121.8mph in the quarter. I know the C7 wont be faster than my car, but I just don't want it to be obviously slower.

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Old 05-28-2013, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OBSSSD
The LS2 was in the C6 for 3 years with no hp change
The LS3 was in the C6 for 6 years with no hp change
So what you're saying is that we can expect the base Corvette to maintain its initial power rating before an upgraded engine arrives with even more power in 3 year's time. Think this partly answers why everyone thinks they probably will up the power...
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Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette
I think a better question would be: how many people max out their car's top end on the street during normal hours? Trade the upper end for the stuff you can use down low before you are in reckless driving/driver liscense cutting up territory.

Look at all my C4 brethren getting in on the action..... oh we KNOW what low is for a Corvette and this ain't it.
some stupid People out there. It all comes down to chest thumping when it comes to numbers these days. Let me see them put 450 to the ground and then they can talk. Its why I just dont waste too much bandwidth on this topic anymore.
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A heavy breathing bump with the other stuff?

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Originally Posted by LS3_E85_Corvette
If it traps 120mph in the quarter, all will be forgiven

I just dyno'd 431whp/440wtq in my nearly stock LS3, and I trapped 121.8mph in the quarter. I know the C7 wont be faster than my car, but I just don't want it to be obviously slower.

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THIS! 120mph in the 1/4 and I will be happy!
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Originally Posted by MARK'S_C5TT
some stupid People out there. It all comes down to chest thumping when it comes to numbers these days. Let me see them put 450 to the ground and then they can talk. Its why I just dont waste too much bandwidth on this topic anymore.
450 to the ground? Really? Not to hard buddy! Not sure what planet you're from?
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by red2012
Gimme a break. Don't you think your exaggerating a wee bit on the 24 HP. Much more powerful. LOL
That's where the C7's Z06 like TQ comes in ( for 50G's no less).......
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Yeah cause 24 hp is a huge difference from what I have now.

It needs 24 hp just due to the increase in weight!
The C7 is in a whole other league compared to the C6, it will blow a GS out of the water. It's so much more then what the C6 base/GS is.

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Gimme a break. Don't you think your exaggerating a wee bit on the 24 HP. Much more powerful. LOL
You can try to minimize it all you want but the LT1 is clearly the more powerful engine compared to the now "weak" looking LS3.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:33 PM
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"At 74 horsepower per liter, the LT1 has greater power density than the C6 Corvette’s LS3 6.2L engine and even the C6 Z06’s racing-derived 7.0L LS7. It also produces comparable torque to the LS7 – up to 4,700 rpm – and its peak torque is within 5 lb-ft of the 7.0L engine.

That torque is generated early and sustained across the rpm band, with 316 lb-ft available at only 1,000 rpm and 90 percent of peak torque available from 3,000 rpm to 5,500 rpm – giving the lightweight Corvette Stingray excellent acceleration at all speeds"

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Old 05-28-2013, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK'S_C5TT
some stupid People out there. It all comes down to chest thumping when it comes to numbers these days. Let me see them put 450 to the ground and then they can talk. Its why I just dont waste too much bandwidth on this topic anymore.
450 at the flywheel or 450 at the wheels?

I'm presently putting down ~450 to the ground(at the rear wheels with my stock C6), but the OE 325 Goodyears aren't up to the task through 90 MPH.
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hemi Dave
"At 74 horsepower per liter, the LT1 has greater power density than the C6 Corvette’s LS3 6.2L engine and even the C6 Z06’s racing-derived 7.0L LS7. It also produces comparable torque to the LS7 – up to 4,700 rpm – and its peak torque is within 5 lb-ft of the 7.0L engine.

That torque is generated early and sustained across the rpm band, with 316 lb-ft available at only 1,000 rpm and 90 percent of peak torque available from 3,000 rpm to 5,500 rpm – giving the lightweight Corvette Stingray excellent acceleration at all speeds"
Except for the fact that at 6000 RPM, the LT1's torque has dropped to 400 lb-ft and still falling as the RPM climbs whereas the LS7's torque is still at 470 lb-ft at 6,200 RPM. At 6,600 RPM the LT1's torque is non existent as it just hit the rev limiter and lost all power and the LS7 still has another 500 RPM to make power.
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The main reason I think they will do it is because I think there will be stiff competition from others (especially Ford). I don't think the HP wars can favor the Corvette for much longer with only 455 HP.

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Old 05-28-2013, 05:52 PM
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Lets not go round and round on what we may think the HP rating will be on the C7. Obviously, nobody here on this forum has a remote clue as to what the real numbers will be once they are officially released by GM.

The real question is ... Why is GM taking so long to officially advertise the power numbers for the C7?

What the hell are they waiting for?

Is it that GM still hasn't figured out what power the C7 makes? Didn't GM already complete the official SAE dyno engine testing / certification of the car?

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EDIT: I am starting to think GM is just playing games here (for some unknown reason)!
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Old 05-28-2013, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Except for the fact that at 6000 RPM, the LT1's torque has dropped to 400 lb-ft and still falling as the RPM climbs whereas the LS7's torque is still at 470 lb-ft at 6,200 RPM. At 6,600 RPM the LT1's torque is non existent as it just hit the rev limiter and lost all power and the LS7 still has another 500 RPM to make power.
My point was that it kills a base C6 and GS and can only be better compared to the C6 Z06.

....and no.....I am not saying it's faster than a Z06 Joe

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Old 05-28-2013, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo6TA
Lets not go round and round on what we may think the HP rating will be on the C7. Obviously, nobody here on this forum has a remote clue as to what the real numbers will be once they are officially released by GM.

The real question is ... Why is GM taking so long to officially advertise the power numbers for the C7?

What the hell are they waiting for?

Is it that GM still hasn't figured out what power the C7 makes? Didn't GM already complete the official SAE dyno engine testing / certification of the car?

Confused ...
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EDIT: I am starting to think GM is just playing games here (for some unknown reason)!
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Official announcement was made.

...455HP/460TQ without factory exhaust upgrade.

...460HP/465TQ with factory exhaust upgrade.
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:13 PM
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bmacZO6
The real question is why are some people obsssd with HP numbers instead of the complete package?
Reading through this thread, I came across your post, which reminded me of the purchase made by a guy in my neighborhood. He just bought a 2013 Camaro ZL1 because he had to have that 580hp engine. He would have bought the 'vette ZR1 but it was out of his price range.

He knows he'd have a tough time beating my stock 436hp LS3. He's aware that the Camaro weights about 1,200 more. He is also aware of the fact that the ZL1 needs that extra 144hp just to launch that 1,200 lbs. He's aware of the difference in handling characteristics between my '13 C6 GS, and the ZL1. He's not ignorant about these cars by any means.

Yet, he made a conscious decision to purchase the Camaro solely because of it's 580hp engine, and the bragging rights that go with it.

For some folks, it's all about horse power, and nothing else.
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Originally Posted by Silver05GTO

You can try to minimize it all you want but the LT1 is clearly the more powerful engine
Holy cow your right! I just did the math. C7 LT1 460 HP
C6 LS-3 436HP
A WHOPPING + 24 HP

DON'T USE IT ALL IN ONE PLACE!
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It's the teeny w--nie club complaining about not having enough to impress with.
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Originally Posted by Sin City
Putting things in PERSPECTIVE... you complainers can always go buy a Jaguar F type.

Then again, you'll pay a lot more and get less performance. The base is $69K and has 340 HP V-6. 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds (vs the Vette convertible at $57K and probably very near 4 seconds with a V-8)

Then again, you can get an F type with a supercharged 5 liter motor and a WHOPPING 40 more HP than the base Vette to get you the staggering numbers of 0 to 60 in 4.2 sec--- for only $92,000!!!

Wow... how can the Vette compete against numbers like THESE?????? It's curtains for GM! Those darn engineers blew it!
Come on is that the best ya got!
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