Now that we know the hp number is low why does everyone think they will up the power?
05-28-2013, 01:42 PM
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Now that we know the hp number is low why does everyone think they will up the power?
The LS2 was in the C6 for 3 years with no hp change
The LS3 was in the C6 for 6 years with no hp change
Furthermore it seems very doubtful with the amount GM has invested in the development of the LT1 that the motor would be changed during the run of the C7. There's just no logical reason to expect a hp bump in the base C7 vette, and I think the 455 number assures that demand will drop considerably within the first model year.
GM has sacrificed significant top end power to bump up the bottom end and thus increase fuel mileage. But how many people that even daily drive their cars would trade 1-2 mpg for 40hp? Seems as though fleet considerations trumped what matters here, and I think C7 sales will reflect that fact by no later than early spring of 2014.
The LS3 was in the C6 for 6 years with no hp change
Furthermore it seems very doubtful with the amount GM has invested in the development of the LT1 that the motor would be changed during the run of the C7. There's just no logical reason to expect a hp bump in the base C7 vette, and I think the 455 number assures that demand will drop considerably within the first model year.
GM has sacrificed significant top end power to bump up the bottom end and thus increase fuel mileage. But how many people that even daily drive their cars would trade 1-2 mpg for 40hp? Seems as though fleet considerations trumped what matters here, and I think C7 sales will reflect that fact by no later than early spring of 2014.
05-28-2013, 01:51 PM
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The LS2 was in the C6 for 3 years with no hp change
The LS3 was in the C6 for 6 years with no hp change
Furthermore it seems very doubtful with the amount GM has invested in the development of the LT1 that the motor would be changed during the run of the C7. There's just no logical reason to expect a hp bump in the base C7 vette, and I think the 455 number assures that demand will drop considerably within the first model year.
GM has sacrificed significant top end power to bump up the bottom end and thus increase fuel mileage. But how many people that even daily drive their cars would trade 1-2 mpg for 40hp? Seems as though fleet considerations trumped what matters here, and I think C7 sales will reflect that fact by no later than early spring of 2014.
The LS3 was in the C6 for 6 years with no hp change
Furthermore it seems very doubtful with the amount GM has invested in the development of the LT1 that the motor would be changed during the run of the C7. There's just no logical reason to expect a hp bump in the base C7 vette, and I think the 455 number assures that demand will drop considerably within the first model year.
GM has sacrificed significant top end power to bump up the bottom end and thus increase fuel mileage. But how many people that even daily drive their cars would trade 1-2 mpg for 40hp? Seems as though fleet considerations trumped what matters here, and I think C7 sales will reflect that fact by no later than early spring of 2014.
05-28-2013, 02:00 PM
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The LS2 was in the C6 for 3 years with no hp change
The LS3 was in the C6 for 6 years with no hp change
Furthermore it seems very doubtful with the amount GM has invested in the development of the LT1 that the motor would be changed during the run of the C7. There's just no logical reason to expect a hp bump in the base C7 vette, and I think the 455 number assures that demand will drop considerably within the first model year.
GM has sacrificed significant top end power to bump up the bottom end and thus increase fuel mileage. But how many people that even daily drive their cars would trade 1-2 mpg for 40hp? Seems as though fleet considerations trumped what matters here, and I think C7 sales will reflect that fact by no later than early spring of 2014.
The LS3 was in the C6 for 6 years with no hp change
Furthermore it seems very doubtful with the amount GM has invested in the development of the LT1 that the motor would be changed during the run of the C7. There's just no logical reason to expect a hp bump in the base C7 vette, and I think the 455 number assures that demand will drop considerably within the first model year.
GM has sacrificed significant top end power to bump up the bottom end and thus increase fuel mileage. But how many people that even daily drive their cars would trade 1-2 mpg for 40hp? Seems as though fleet considerations trumped what matters here, and I think C7 sales will reflect that fact by no later than early spring of 2014.
05-28-2013, 02:14 PM
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The LS2 was in the C6 for 3 years with no hp change
The LS3 was in the C6 for 6 years with no hp change
Furthermore it seems very doubtful with the amount GM has invested in the development of the LT1 that the motor would be changed during the run of the C7. There's just no logical reason to expect a hp bump in the base C7 vette, and I think the 455 number assures that demand will drop considerably within the first model year.
GM has sacrificed significant top end power to bump up the bottom end and thus increase fuel mileage. But how many people that even daily drive their cars would trade 1-2 mpg for 40hp? Seems as though fleet considerations trumped what matters here, and I think C7 sales will reflect that fact by no later than early spring of 2014.
The LS3 was in the C6 for 6 years with no hp change
Furthermore it seems very doubtful with the amount GM has invested in the development of the LT1 that the motor would be changed during the run of the C7. There's just no logical reason to expect a hp bump in the base C7 vette, and I think the 455 number assures that demand will drop considerably within the first model year.
GM has sacrificed significant top end power to bump up the bottom end and thus increase fuel mileage. But how many people that even daily drive their cars would trade 1-2 mpg for 40hp? Seems as though fleet considerations trumped what matters here, and I think C7 sales will reflect that fact by no later than early spring of 2014.
Look at all my C4 brethren getting in on the action..... oh we KNOW what low is for a Corvette and this ain't it.
05-28-2013, 02:23 PM
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2014/2015 will be the same. In 2016 I believe DCT or 8/9/10 speed auto (whatever GM uses) will be avail as well as the increase in HP...
I want to say probably around 475 hp for base and I think 480 hp for NPP
I want to say probably around 475 hp for base and I think 480 hp for NPP
05-28-2013, 02:26 PM
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I personally am disappointed in the 455 HP number.
I was hoping for 457. That extra 2 HP would make all the difference!
I was hoping for 457. That extra 2 HP would make all the difference!
05-28-2013, 02:27 PM
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You forgot to mention that due to the economic meltdown sales for sports cars suffered a heavy die off and the life span of C6 went further than originally planned. That same meltdown also made engineering a new engine or up rating the existing engine for a car that might not even be built by a company that possibly wasn't going to exist to build it money that wasn't getting spent.
My guess based on recent history is that GM will wait for sales and interest to simmer down and then offer a bump which thanks to the lower initial number is already in the bank.
Not that I disagree about some of your post. I would have gladly given up a lot of economy for more performance. I don't buy or drive a Vette because I want to attain the best possible fuel economy. This of course is me speaking strictly for myself.
My guess based on recent history is that GM will wait for sales and interest to simmer down and then offer a bump which thanks to the lower initial number is already in the bank.
Not that I disagree about some of your post. I would have gladly given up a lot of economy for more performance. I don't buy or drive a Vette because I want to attain the best possible fuel economy. This of course is me speaking strictly for myself.
05-28-2013, 02:31 PM
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I'm unsure, in what world, 455-460hp is "low." Granted, I wasn't involved in dissecting and comparing previous engines. The naked number, itself, is a good hp number as is the related torque number. This thing will zip.
05-28-2013, 02:39 PM
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05-28-2013, 03:10 PM
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05-28-2013, 03:12 PM
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Don't bet you last dollar on it OBSSSD!
Furthermore it seems very doubtful with the amount GM has invested in the development of the LT1 that the motor would be changed during the run of the C7. There's just no logical reason to expect a hp bump in the base C7 vette, and I think the 455 number assures that demand will drop considerably within the first model year.
GM has sacrificed significant top end power to bump up the bottom end and thus increase fuel mileage. But how many people that even daily drive their cars would trade 1-2 mpg for 40hp? Seems as though fleet considerations trumped what matters here, and I think C7 sales will reflect that fact by no later than early spring of 2014.
05-28-2013, 03:23 PM
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It needs 24 hp just due to the increase in weight!
05-28-2013, 03:24 PM
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Putting things in PERSPECTIVE... you complainers can always go buy a Jaguar F type.
Then again, you'll pay a lot more and get less performance. The base is $69K and has 340 HP V-6. 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds (vs the Vette convertible at $57K and probably very near 4 seconds with a V-8)
Then again, you can get an F type with a supercharged 5 liter motor and a WHOPPING 40 more HP than the base Vette to get you the staggering numbers of 0 to 60 in 4.2 sec--- for only $92,000!!!
Wow... how can the Vette compete against numbers like THESE?????? It's curtains for GM! Those darn engineers blew it!
Then again, you'll pay a lot more and get less performance. The base is $69K and has 340 HP V-6. 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds (vs the Vette convertible at $57K and probably very near 4 seconds with a V-8)
Then again, you can get an F type with a supercharged 5 liter motor and a WHOPPING 40 more HP than the base Vette to get you the staggering numbers of 0 to 60 in 4.2 sec--- for only $92,000!!!
Wow... how can the Vette compete against numbers like THESE?????? It's curtains for GM! Those darn engineers blew it!
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05-28-2013, 03:37 PM
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Putting things in PERSPECTIVE... you complainers can always go buy a Jaguar F type.
Then again, you'll pay a lot more and get less performance. The base is $69K and has 340 HP V-6. 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds (vs the Vette convertible at $57K and probably very near 4 seconds with a V-8)
Then again, you can get an F type with a supercharged 5 liter motor and a WHOPPING 40 more HP than the base Vette to get you the staggering numbers of 0 to 60 in 4.2 sec--- for only $92,000!!!
Wow... how can the Vette compete against numbers like THESE?????? It's curtains for GM! Those darn engineers blew it!
Then again, you'll pay a lot more and get less performance. The base is $69K and has 340 HP V-6. 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds (vs the Vette convertible at $57K and probably very near 4 seconds with a V-8)
Then again, you can get an F type with a supercharged 5 liter motor and a WHOPPING 40 more HP than the base Vette to get you the staggering numbers of 0 to 60 in 4.2 sec--- for only $92,000!!!
Wow... how can the Vette compete against numbers like THESE?????? It's curtains for GM! Those darn engineers blew it!
