Track Tested: 2014 Chevy Corvette Stingray vs 2014 Nissan GT-R
09-06-2013, 06:14 PM
#201
Melting Slicks
To some perhaps but I will tell you that in my three weeks of GT-R ownership I have already received more "great looking car" comments than I did in all three of my C6 Vettes (including a Z06 and Grand Sport). I've always loved the looks of the GT-R.
09-06-2013, 06:18 PM
#202
Did I miss something? The C7 did not out perform the GTR in this comparison. Sure, the corvette is more engaging and the GTR is less...but this has been the case since the introduction of the GTR and its battles with the C6.
While I prefer the C7, I would be shocked if it proves faster than the GT-R around a track. You will need the Z for that....and that would be a fair comparison.
While I prefer the C7, I would be shocked if it proves faster than the GT-R around a track. You will need the Z for that....and that would be a fair comparison.
09-06-2013, 06:23 PM
#203
Team Owner
So when you say you'd never own one do you mean you'd never buy one or if someone gave you one you wouldn't take it. Me, I probably wouldn't go out and buy one for the money that they are going for now but if I was Bill Gates rich or someone gave me one I'd definitely take it.
09-06-2013, 06:25 PM
#204
09-06-2013, 08:10 PM
#206
Team Owner
1/4 mile trap was pretty slow for the C-7!
09-06-2013, 08:12 PM
#207
Le Mans Master
C7 won on the track.... That is the only thing that matters here guys.
C7 time: 1:24.6
GTR track edition: 1:25.2
Flame suit off, because this ends the thread. GREAT job corvette team for a car that's HALF the price, and performs better, and I think looks better.
C7 time: 1:24.6
GTR track edition: 1:25.2
Flame suit off, because this ends the thread. GREAT job corvette team for a car that's HALF the price, and performs better, and I think looks better.
Also 0 to 60?
Its 2.7-second 0-60-mph time ties it with the fastest production vehicles we've ever tested -- Veyron, 911 Turbo
Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2eA4kv6mz
While the R8's 1:21.95 lap is respectable (besting the Ferrari 458 by 0.4 second), the GT-R's 1:19.55 is the fastest we've recorded from a production car. It's also 0.17 faster than what AMA pro Steve Rapp could do with a Ducati 1198 S.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...k/viewall.html
Last edited by DRLC5; 09-06-2013 at 08:20 PM.
09-06-2013, 08:13 PM
#208
Le Mans Master
09-06-2013, 08:23 PM
#209
Le Mans Master
Did I miss something? The C7 did not out perform the GTR in this comparison. Sure, the corvette is more engaging and the GTR is less...but this has been the case since the introduction of the GTR and its battles with the C6.
While I prefer the C7, I would be shocked if it proves faster than the GT-R around a track. You will need the Z for that....and that would be a fair comparison.
While I prefer the C7, I would be shocked if it proves faster than the GT-R around a track. You will need the Z for that....and that would be a fair comparison.
09-06-2013, 08:56 PM
#211
I think the difference this time is that in previous battles with various C6's, some of the engagement was created by the car but not always in a good way. Its substandard seats forced engagement by the driver, as did the sometimes tricky behavior over bumps. Seems the C7 has exorcised almost all of that, and it tacks onto it better steering to boot, where the C6's numbness marked it down. This is the kind of engagement that works with the driver. Subjectively, the C7 outperformed the GT-R in this test and did so objectively on a hot day at the track.
09-06-2013, 09:04 PM
#212
Le Mans Master
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...k/viewall.html
Last edited by DRLC5; 09-06-2013 at 09:06 PM.
09-06-2013, 11:50 PM
#213
Love the new C7 I will be buying the new Hi Po model when it comes out. I really don't understand how they only ran a 1.25 in the GTR? , Yes this one time The C7 was faster. I smell FISH..LMAO. I have Read several articles that have the GTR around 1.19 at that track? Maybe the driver was eating a SANDWICH? I also do not like the VOLT.LOL
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...k/viewall.html
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...k/viewall.html
09-07-2013, 04:29 AM
#214
Racer
Um the Corvette won what? Braking. The GT R is the other best value for the money. Yes it costs more so it should be faster and it is. I love the C7 but it cannot compete with the Nissan on numbers. If you prefer the C7, which I do, good for you, but don't diss the Nissan, it is one hell of a car.
09-07-2013, 01:18 PM
#215
Burning Brakes
This thread is seriously LOL. People have zero perspective.
Anyone with half a brain knows forced induction cars need to and are designed to run 93 octane. SERIOUS power is pulled running lower power maps for 91 Octane. The car is designed for the entire world, not solely for silly hippy states like California.
1/2 the cost is nonsense. A similarly equipped C7 is $70 grand+, hardly half the cost. A Z06 C7 will be pushing $90K, just watch. Not to mention with the GTR, you don't get to see ten others of the same exact car with 65 year olds driving them on the way to work like you do with Vettes.
Ya, that .1s is just blowing doors off all over the place. Here's a few pro-tips:
For around $4,000 in extremely simple mod's any 2009+ GTR can run 600 HP/TQ to the wheels, pull in 2.5 sec 0-60 times and low 10's in the quarter. I doubt with $40,000 in upgrades you'd be able to to that in a 911.
And one last thing, Nissan stupidly only sells the car with street tires. All of these tests at the 'ring etc versus cars with pilot sport cup track tires is a bit laughable. Put pilot sport cups on the GTR and the other cars get destroyed.
Oh and by the way, the C7 did a 12.3 sec 1/4 in this test? Isn't that slower than the C6 and not exactly something to be excited about.
As a vette owner I am not putting down the C7, but people lose all perspective. Especially when it comes to these silly tests done by soccer dads from sites like Edmunds who are more apt to testing econoboxes. In no-way-shape-or form is a base C7 a better car than a GTR, get real people.
Not for 2011. 2012/2013MYs Z07s have the MPSC.
Anyway lets see if I get this right. Both cars are run by the same driver @ same day. Hot or cold or whatever. Both cars had the same gas. Is this GM or Edmunds fault? You are right. The car had a bad day. It was driven in the heat...with 91 octane fuel. So what does that tell you?
Anyway lets see if I get this right. Both cars are run by the same driver @ same day. Hot or cold or whatever. Both cars had the same gas. Is this GM or Edmunds fault? You are right. The car had a bad day. It was driven in the heat...with 91 octane fuel. So what does that tell you?
For around $4,000 in extremely simple mod's any 2009+ GTR can run 600 HP/TQ to the wheels, pull in 2.5 sec 0-60 times and low 10's in the quarter. I doubt with $40,000 in upgrades you'd be able to to that in a 911.
And one last thing, Nissan stupidly only sells the car with street tires. All of these tests at the 'ring etc versus cars with pilot sport cup track tires is a bit laughable. Put pilot sport cups on the GTR and the other cars get destroyed.
Oh and by the way, the C7 did a 12.3 sec 1/4 in this test? Isn't that slower than the C6 and not exactly something to be excited about.
As a vette owner I am not putting down the C7, but people lose all perspective. Especially when it comes to these silly tests done by soccer dads from sites like Edmunds who are more apt to testing econoboxes. In no-way-shape-or form is a base C7 a better car than a GTR, get real people.
Last edited by Callsign_Vega; 09-07-2013 at 01:22 PM.
09-07-2013, 01:49 PM
#216
This thread is seriously LOL. People have zero perspective.
Anyone with half a brain knows forced induction cars need to and are designed to run 93 octane. SERIOUS power is pulled running lower power maps for 91 Octane. The car is designed for the entire world, not solely for silly hippy states like California.
1/2 the cost is nonsense. A similarly equipped C7 is $70 grand+, hardly half the cost. A Z06 C7 will be pushing $90K, just watch. Not to mention with the GTR, you don't get to see ten others of the same exact car with 65 year olds driving them on the way to work like you do with Vettes.
Ya, that .1s is just blowing doors off all over the place. Here's a few pro-tips:
For around $4,000 in extremely simple mod's any 2009+ GTR can run 600 HP/TQ to the wheels, pull in 2.5 sec 0-60 times and low 10's in the quarter. I doubt with $40,000 in upgrades you'd be able to to that in a 911.
And one last thing, Nissan stupidly only sells the car with street tires. All of these tests at the 'ring etc versus cars with pilot sport cup track tires is a bit laughable. Put pilot sport cups on the GTR and the other cars get destroyed.
Oh and by the way, the C7 did a 12.3 sec 1/4 in this test? Isn't that slower than the C6 and not exactly something to be excited about.
As a vette owner I am not putting down the C7, but people lose all perspective. Especially when it comes to these silly tests done by soccer dads from sites like Edmunds who are more apt to testing econoboxes. In no-way-shape-or form is a base C7 a better car than a GTR, get real people.
Anyone with half a brain knows forced induction cars need to and are designed to run 93 octane. SERIOUS power is pulled running lower power maps for 91 Octane. The car is designed for the entire world, not solely for silly hippy states like California.
1/2 the cost is nonsense. A similarly equipped C7 is $70 grand+, hardly half the cost. A Z06 C7 will be pushing $90K, just watch. Not to mention with the GTR, you don't get to see ten others of the same exact car with 65 year olds driving them on the way to work like you do with Vettes.
Ya, that .1s is just blowing doors off all over the place. Here's a few pro-tips:
For around $4,000 in extremely simple mod's any 2009+ GTR can run 600 HP/TQ to the wheels, pull in 2.5 sec 0-60 times and low 10's in the quarter. I doubt with $40,000 in upgrades you'd be able to to that in a 911.
And one last thing, Nissan stupidly only sells the car with street tires. All of these tests at the 'ring etc versus cars with pilot sport cup track tires is a bit laughable. Put pilot sport cups on the GTR and the other cars get destroyed.
Oh and by the way, the C7 did a 12.3 sec 1/4 in this test? Isn't that slower than the C6 and not exactly something to be excited about.
As a vette owner I am not putting down the C7, but people lose all perspective. Especially when it comes to these silly tests done by soccer dads from sites like Edmunds who are more apt to testing econoboxes. In no-way-shape-or form is a base C7 a better car than a GTR, get real people.
Nissan GTR is sold mostly in California... and not for Neanderthal rednecks who still use the word hippy to describe a PLACE.
All else being equal...the driver could not get the performance out of the Nissan (as well as the Vette, Viper, 911) as a pro driver would. This is more in tune to real world driving.
Stop moving the goalposts...the Nissan had a slower lap time
"but...but...but something was wrong with the driver...or the car...this whole test was wrong...wrong gas...wrong track...wrong state....it went faster with a pro driver...let's use that time instead...yeah that's a better time...boo hooo."
Facts are a hard thing to deny... the fact is ALL these cars were driven slower...this accounts for not only the slow C7 0-60 1/4 times...but the other cars as well. What don't you guys understand?
Now is the C7 a better car? We shall see...but it sure looks better IMHO. Interior of the C7 is better also than the Nissan (my opinion of course) while I like Euro/Japanese cars more than American cars...the Vette and Viper are the only exceptions. So I am not a GTR hater...I just don't understand you guys denying t
These test results. This thread is sounding like a teen XBox vs PlayStation forum. And you are all grown men....LOL
Last edited by Blancpain; 09-07-2013 at 01:55 PM.
09-07-2013, 03:26 PM
#217
Not so. If you count the entire US, that accounts for only 42% of GT-R global sales, using 2012 figures.
IMO, the test does raise a legit concern for people who intend to use these cars for the track, especially in regions that get hot.
IMO, the test does raise a legit concern for people who intend to use these cars for the track, especially in regions that get hot.
Last edited by Guibo; 09-07-2013 at 03:33 PM.
09-08-2013, 02:20 AM
#218
Safety Car
I've owned 3 C6's, 2 of them Z0's and i got 10x more attention in my 2012 GT-R then all of the vettes combined. the C7 just doesn't do it for me. I think i'll buy another GT-R to hold me over till the C7Z comes out. 
09-08-2013, 07:11 AM
#220
This thread is seriously LOL. People have zero perspective.
Anyone with half a brain knows forced induction cars need to and are designed to run 93 octane. SERIOUS power is pulled running lower power maps for 91 Octane. The car is designed for the entire world, not solely for silly hippy states like California.
1/2 the cost is nonsense. A similarly equipped C7 is $70 grand+, hardly half the cost. A Z06 C7 will be pushing $90K, just watch. Not to mention with the GTR, you don't get to see ten others of the same exact car with 65 year olds driving them on the way to work like you do with Vettes.
Ya, that .1s is just blowing doors off all over the place. Here's a few pro-tips:
For around $4,000 in extremely simple mod's any 2009+ GTR can run 600 HP/TQ to the wheels, pull in 2.5 sec 0-60 times and low 10's in the quarter. I doubt with $40,000 in upgrades you'd be able to to that in a 911.
And one last thing, Nissan stupidly only sells the car with street tires. All of these tests at the 'ring etc versus cars with pilot sport cup track tires is a bit laughable. Put pilot sport cups on the GTR and the other cars get destroyed.
Oh and by the way, the C7 did a 12.3 sec 1/4 in this test? Isn't that slower than the C6 and not exactly something to be excited about.
As a vette owner I am not putting down the C7, but people lose all perspective. Especially when it comes to these silly tests done by soccer dads from sites like Edmunds who are more apt to testing econoboxes. In no-way-shape-or form is a base C7 a better car than a GTR, get real people.
Anyone with half a brain knows forced induction cars need to and are designed to run 93 octane. SERIOUS power is pulled running lower power maps for 91 Octane. The car is designed for the entire world, not solely for silly hippy states like California.
1/2 the cost is nonsense. A similarly equipped C7 is $70 grand+, hardly half the cost. A Z06 C7 will be pushing $90K, just watch. Not to mention with the GTR, you don't get to see ten others of the same exact car with 65 year olds driving them on the way to work like you do with Vettes.
Ya, that .1s is just blowing doors off all over the place. Here's a few pro-tips:
For around $4,000 in extremely simple mod's any 2009+ GTR can run 600 HP/TQ to the wheels, pull in 2.5 sec 0-60 times and low 10's in the quarter. I doubt with $40,000 in upgrades you'd be able to to that in a 911.
And one last thing, Nissan stupidly only sells the car with street tires. All of these tests at the 'ring etc versus cars with pilot sport cup track tires is a bit laughable. Put pilot sport cups on the GTR and the other cars get destroyed.
Oh and by the way, the C7 did a 12.3 sec 1/4 in this test? Isn't that slower than the C6 and not exactly something to be excited about.
As a vette owner I am not putting down the C7, but people lose all perspective. Especially when it comes to these silly tests done by soccer dads from sites like Edmunds who are more apt to testing econoboxes. In no-way-shape-or form is a base C7 a better car than a GTR, get real people.
Yeah you are right. Nissan should put Sport Cups on the GTR. Oh wait...the GTR is already having issues with its current set of tires. You'll be lucky if your tires lasts your entire day on the track. I won't even mention the brakes. Some dude shot his brakes @ Hockenheim in 10 laps. And he was on stock tires. Yeah you really have a neat point.
Comical
And please...don't bring 2009 GTRs with "$4,000" in mods on the table. First of all thats modded vs stock. Second...I've seen quite a few "modded" GTRs that literally get destroyed by stock ZR1s.