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Old 09-13-2013, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jschindler
My opinion is that you call it whatever the manufacturer thought was important enough to put on the outside of the car. BTW, for reasons totally goofy to me, they call it "Stingray" but decided to keep that a secret by not putting that name anywhere on the car, leaving people to guess what the goofy looking emblem on the front fender is.
I would have much rather seen the word Stingray on the car verses a little sperm thing on the side of the front fender. No one outside Corvette lovers will ever know what it is!!!!
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Originally Posted by CJJ
My opinion is who care!! I'll call my vette multiple things including z51 with MSRC and carbon fiber dash baddass. I see what your doing here OP. my question to you is" what would you like us to call it?"

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Originally Posted by SD1
There seems to be a bit of slight for the true "base" car, but if asked I would point out that it was a Z51. The Z51 has a pretty significant list of upgrades, most of us would agree are "must haves" and its a reasonable bang for buck from the factory.
While I agree it's upgraded handling etc. (I ordered a Z51), There is no difference in HP or TQ. Unlike the 427, Z06 and ZR1, these C7's all have the same power performance. Bottom line you can't tell me a 1LT is called a base and not a 2LT or 3LT, these are all just options like the Z51. Forget the idea that a Z51 has it's own model code. Side by side looking at both cars there is no physical distinction period like there was with the above models as I mentioned before.
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No it is not a base car.
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To me, it's a 14' Corvette Stingray. You want more? It's a C7. Still more you ask? (man you are persistent), It's a 2014 Corvette Stingray C7 with the Z51 option. Oh, now you want a ride. (pushy...ok, let's go!)
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Originally Posted by Nate W
Would you consider a C7 with the Z51 as still a "base" Corvette? If you bought a C7 with the Z51 package and someone asks you what level or trim it is, would you say that it's a base model or a Z51? Just wondering...
The Chevrolet web site shows the price difference between the standard and Z51 optioned vehicle to be $2,800.00. Do you think the options are worth the difference. My gripe is you cannot get the magnetic ride control unless you order the Z51 option. Chevrolet should offer the option on the non Z51 vehicle. That is how I ordered my car a few years ago.


The available Z51 Performance Package takes
Stingray performance to track levels. It includes larger
19-inch front and 20-inch rear wheels; a dry-sump oil
system; Electronic Limited-Slip Differential; larger
front brakes, slotted rotors with black calipers; specific
gear ratios, shocks springs and stabilizer bars; plus
available Magnetic Ride Control and Performance
Traction Management.
Old 09-13-2013, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ldepalma
I would have much rather seen the word Stingray on the car verses a little sperm thing on the side of the front fender. No one outside Corvette lovers will ever know what it is!!!!
GM left that as additional options lol - the Stingray wheel logos, sill plates, floor mats, and the display on the inside of the hood. I think if you include all of those you're at almost $1k extra
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It is a base car, but the Z51 stick-on emblems will distinguish it!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
It also has the Corvette crossed flags and the word C O R V E T T E as well as the word Stingray on a plaque on dash. Where does this car say anything but Ferrari?
Uhhh, so if it's okay for a Ferrari it's okay for a Corvette? You don't see a picture of Enzo Ferrari on the front fender, do you?

I'm not a fan of dash plaques either. They are some sort of reminder so when you are driving down the road in case you forgot what you bought????

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Originally Posted by Nate W
Would you consider a C7 with the Z51 as still a "base" Corvette? If you bought a C7 with the Z51 package and someone asks you what level or trim it is, would you say that it's a base model or a Z51? Just wondering...
Yes it is. It has an option, but it is the base car.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
No it is not a base car.
Why not Babe? It is the base car (not like a Z06 or ZR1 model) with an option added to it. I would def consider this nothing more.
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Originally Posted by jackhall99
Why not Babe? It is the base car (not like a Z06 or ZR1 model) with an option added to it. I would def consider this nothing more.
Because the Z51 has a lot more going on than the base. The base doesn't even have a rear anti-sway bar!
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Originally Posted by Dave@Kerbeck.com
This is very simple. There is a coupe and a Z51 coupe; a convertible and a Z51 Convertible. Base would be more in line with the 1LT Trim Level.

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Well gee Dave, why is there a LT1 trim level with the Z51 option?

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Originally Posted by jschindler
Uhhh, so if it's okay for a Ferrari it's okay for a Corvette? You don't see a picture of Enzo Ferrari on the front fender, do you?

I'm not a fan of dash plaques either. They are some sort of reminder so when you are driving down the road in case you forgot what you bought????
If Ferrari considers it OK to not have to tell the world the name of the one car to carry their founder/longtime owner legendary car builder's first name then I think it's OK for a Stingray to not spell it out on the outside of the car. If you disagree, take it up with GM.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Because the Z51 has a lot more going on than the base. The base doesn't even have a rear anti-sway bar!
Chevrolet calls this a 1LT (2LT/3LT) with Z51 Performance Package on their site! It is NOT a separate model in my opinion, contrary to option order numbers, etc.) on Chevrolet's own site.

Yes, the Z51 has a lot more going on. It is an OPTIONAL equipment package.

I won't debate it. As others have said, call it what you want to. When they introduce a different model with a more powerful or at least different engine, I'll consider it as a separate model.

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There is just one Stingray no base no premium model just a Stingray...the most awesome American car in existence and I'm about to own one :-)
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Originally Posted by talon90
For the first time, no, it isn't a base car in my opinion.

Once it gets it's own Merchandising Model designation, it is a model unto itself and since it has additional performance content when compared to the non-Z51 Stingray I would say that a "base" coupe is the non-Z51 Stingray Coupe and a "base" convertible is a non-Z51 Stingray Convertible.

The merchandising model codes are distinct and as such the Z51 is it's own model as much as a coupe and convertible are.

1YY07 is a Corvette Stingray Coupe.
1YX07 is a Corvette Stingray Z51 Coupe.

Previously the only distinction that a Z51 car had was an RPO code on the glove box as far as product model identification was concerned.

I think you would be warranted in calling it either a Stingray or a Stingray Z51. Frankly, the only people who will care or know the difference are other Corvette owners and fans. If you said Stingray, anyone who knew or cared would likely ask you if it was a Z51.


C5 & C6 Option
C7 VIN difference.

Considering the OPs original quote "Would you consider a C7 with the Z51 as still a "base" Corvette? If you bought a C7 with the Z51 package and someone asks you what level or trim it is, would you say that it's a base model or a Z51? Just wondering."

The question is unclear (i.e. "Base Corvette" "Level of Trim" "Base Model) and not easy to answer, what does the 5th digit in the VIN represent (Model or trim)?

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Originally Posted by talon90
For the first time, no, it isn't a base car in my opinion.

Once it gets it's own Merchandising Model designation, it is a model unto itself and since it has additional performance content when compared to the non-Z51 Stingray I would say that a "base" coupe is the non-Z51 Stingray Coupe and a "base" convertible is a non-Z51 Stingray Convertible.

The merchandising model codes are distinct and as such the Z51 is it's own model as much as a coupe and convertible are.

1YY07 is a Corvette Stingray Coupe.
1YX07 is a Corvette Stingray Z51 Coupe.

Previously the only distinction that a Z51 car had was an RPO code on the glove box as far as product model identification was concerned.

I think you would be warranted in calling it either a Stingray or a Stingray Z51. Frankly, the only people who will care or know the difference are other Corvette owners and fans. If you said Stingray, anyone who knew or cared would likely ask you if it was a Z51.
I gotta go with Paul on this and, as such, I officially dub the C7 Z51 as the:
STINGZ
I'm sure someone will use this on their license plate!

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Originally Posted by BlueOx
I gotta go with Paul on this and, as such, I officially dub the C7 Z51 as the:
STINGZ
I'm sure someone will use this on their license plate!
You have dibs on it Babe!
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Originally Posted by jackhall99
Well gee Dave, why is there a LT1 trim level with the Z51 option?

There isn't. There's an LT1 engine but you get that with any 2014 C7 whether or or not it also has Z51. Of course, there is a 1LT trim level.


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