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Old 09-13-2013, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
It also has the Corvette crossed flags and the word C O R V E T T E as well as the word Stingray on a plaque on dash. Where does this car say anything but Ferrari?

that car doesn't have to say anything but FERRARI, I would pour gasoline on every vette, viper, mustang , GN and basically every other car I've ever owned, light a match, set them all on fire, if that earned me ownership of an Enzo.

Dude, I like corvettes too, had 5 of them, but you really need to stop comparing them to Ferrari , lambo, and all the other true exotic cars, they are not in the same world
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Originally Posted by jackhall99
Chevrolet calls this a 1LT (2LT/3LT) with Z51 Performance Package on their site! It is NOT a separate model in my opinion, contrary to option order numbers, etc.) on Chevrolet's own site.

Yes, the Z51 has a lot more going on. It is an OPTIONAL equipment package.

I won't debate it. As others have said, call it what you want to. When they introduce a different model with a more powerful or at least different engine, I'll consider it as a separate model.
, Z51 option has been around since 1984.
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Originally Posted by Hirohawa
Yup. Base model with an optional upgrade.

It's analogous to the 911 S - which is still a base model to me.

I think teh changes need to be more significant - i.e. Engine and/or body panels - to be a "new" model.
The "911" is the base rear engine Porsche.

The "911 S" is the next model up with more HP, etc than a "911".

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Originally Posted by NytmereZ
that car doesn't have to say anything but FERRARI, I would pour gasoline on every vette, viper, mustang , GN and basically every other car I've ever owned, light a match, set them all on fire, if that earned me ownership of an Enzo.

Dude, I like corvettes too, had 5 of them, but you really need to stop comparing them to Ferrari , lambo, and all the other true exotic cars, they are not in the same world
Dude, you're trying to tell me my base C6 isn't in the same league as an Enzo?



ps the Enzo was surpassed by its successor:

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Originally Posted by rcallen484
If Ferrari considers it OK to not have to tell the world the name of the one car to carry their founder/longtime owner legendary car builder's first name then I think it's OK for a Stingray to not spell it out on the outside of the car. If you disagree, take it up with GM.
I really don't need to take it up with anyone. It's a simple forum debate and I'm simply stating my opinion as I have been for 12 years on this forum.
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Originally Posted by Nate W
Would you consider a C7 with the Z51 as still a "base" Corvette? If you bought a C7 with the Z51 package and someone asks you what level or trim it is, would you say that it's a base model or a Z51? Just wondering...
Well, there is only one 2014 model. The Z51 option is just that an option. At $2,800 I do not see it as worthy of being called it's own model. I'll love my Z51 just the same.
Old 09-14-2013, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
The Z51 is an option package, not a model. tell them you have a Corvette Stingray.
...very wise. I would call it a Stingray and not a list of options. Like Z-51, 3Lt, etc.
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Break out the Z51 badges!!! Lol
Old 09-14-2013, 06:02 PM
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The car being released in the "Stingray" model...the ONLY model....period. The model is indicated by what GM puts on the car...anything beyond that is simply an option. If the Stingray logo were removed and Z51 badge were there, then it'd be a Corvette Z51.

It's a Stingray...the end.

The next car will be the Z0"x" and will likely have appropriate badging to indicate it's not a Stingray/entry level model.

If you buy a 2014, you're buying a Stingray with the Z51 option, not a Corvette Z51.
Old 09-14-2013, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mdiiulio
Break out the Z51 badges!!! Lol

I assume emblempros.com will have a OEM quality Z51 badges soon....
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
There isn't. There's an LT1 engine but you get that with any 2014 C7 whether or or not it also has Z51. Of course, there is a 1LT trim level.
Yes it was a typo, but I'm sure Dave knew that.

In a subsequent post I punched it in correctly.
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Originally Posted by Achmed
If the Z51 were a separate model, then both the Z51 and non-Z51 would not share the Stingray name.

For example, with then hi-po version comes out it won't be Corvette Stingray Z07, at least I don't think it will.

Even still, a $2,800 add on, without any difference in body width, does not equate to a separate model, even if it has a separate model code.
Ask guys with an L88 Corvette if they are base models because they share the same name.

Back in "the day" it was all about RPO codes. Now they have special models so you can tell everyone how much "specialerer" you are.

I have a 2003 Z06 by the way. NOT a 2003 Corvette!

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Originally Posted by WildVettes
Ask guys with an L88 Corvette if they are base models because they share the same name.
Well, I don't think you were a Corvette owner and driver back then or you would know the answer. In '67, we had two Corvettes availabe; a coupe and a roadster. Many options were available to purchase.

My first Corvette was the roadster with a 300 HP 327 c.i. engine. An acquaintance owned a coupe with an L88 and M22 tranny. He could stomp me every which way but loose. He knew it and I knew it. But it was an option, nothing more, albeit one that cost about 25% of the price of the base car cost.

The Z51 has been a suspension optional PACKAGE for years. When they bring out the C7 Z07, or whatever they call the higher powered MODEL Chevrolet will introduce, I'll accept that as other than a base Corvette with a Z51 package.

You, and others, can call an optioned car a separate model. That's good.
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
It also has the Corvette crossed flags and the word C O R V E T T E as well as the word Stingray on a plaque on dash. Where does this car say anything but Ferrari?

Well it does have a plaque that says "Enzo Ferrari" on center console but I guess it still says Ferarri.
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Originally Posted by WildVettes
.. I have a 2003 Z06 by the way. NOT a 2003 Corvette!
And the Z06 IS a separate model. So is the ZR1.
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Originally Posted by themonk
Well it does have a plaque that says "Enzo Ferrari" on center console but I guess it still says Ferarri.
JUST LIKE the Stingray----- oops there I go again, having the audacity to even mention a Chevrolet in the same breath as a Ferrari
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Originally Posted by jackhall99
And the Z06 IS a separate model. So is the ZR1.
So is the original Z06 a Z06 or an RPO Z06?

Also I was referring to "CURRENT" owners of L88 Corvettes. You missed the point of my comment. It was to show that back in the 60s and 70s no one cared about RPO codes and special models. They had a "Corvette". People have recently needed to differeniate themselves from those "lesser" base models so Acura, Lexus, Infinity, and Z06/Grand Sport/ZR1/Callways were born.

People will pay at least $10,000 just to be able to say they have something "higher end".

FYI did I mention I have a 2003 Z06?

Also I was born in 1981, my dad was barely a driver in 1967. Man he loved Stingrays. He always wanted one and died at 54 never having owned a single Corvette. He and I would be having a blast right now. I plan on getting my son involved early. My wife says he is going to end up loving bicycles and dancing

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Old 09-14-2013, 11:54 PM
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Well, I see themonk pulled his post before he got nailed!

The Z06 is a model in the context this thread is about, as is the ZR1.
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Originally Posted by jackhall99
Well, I see themonk pulled his post before he got nailed!

The Z06 is a model in the context this thread is about, as is the ZR1.
hahahaha, yes I did.
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Originally Posted by jackhall99
Well, I see themonk pulled his post before he got nailed!

The Z06 is a model in the context this thread is about, as is the ZR1.
I have never argued so much about something we agree on


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