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Old 10-08-2013, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
The various models(base, GS, Z06, ZR1) of the Corvette are lumped together but the various models(911, Boxster, Cayman) of the Porsche are not, in your chart.

I can't read the numbers(too blurred) but how do the total Porsche models stack up against the total corvette models?
For the 2012 model year the Porsche Boxter model alone sold 10,126 cars and Corvette sold 11,647 including the Z06, GS and ZR1's.

Link to all Porsche sales in 2012 ( the total 2013 sales are not available yet):

"Porsche reported sales of 143,096 vehicles for 2012, up 22 percent than in the previous year, which is a new record for the sports car manufacturer."

"North America remained the brand’s most important market, with sales rising 34 percent to 39,192 units"

http://www.carscoops.com/2013/03/201...s-history.html
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Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
A set of A/S tires makes a big difference.
I remember our friend Jack asking me to Photoshop tire chains on that car!
Old 10-08-2013, 02:22 PM
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I have not even read the OPs article yet, and I already don't give a sh%^ what it says. When it relates to cars the only person whose opinion matters to me, is ME.

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GM produce a sports car between 2006 -2009 that was an affordable one.
It was called the Pontiac Solstice and also sold under the SKY and Opel brand.
It cost between $20K and $32K. It sold over 65K units on those 4 years of production.
The second generation was slated to go to Bowling Green on 2012 and be build along side of the Corvette. Of course that all went south when GM had to bailed out.
GM, I am sure, still has does plans for that second generation of the KAPPA platform.
GM,rather than try to make the Corvette appeal to all, at the price range it commands, it can take a page from the selling book of Porsche (Box/Caymen) and produce a sports car like the SECOND GENERATIONl KAPPA at the $25K to $40K price range.
Until then, the Corvette will continue the same sales trend as it has done in the past.

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im 29 and im picking up my C7 tomorrow
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Originally Posted by dcbingaman
I think the writer is full of crap. The problem GM has with this car with Millenials, is that Millenials are not into cars, period.
This was addressed in the article.
Old 10-08-2013, 02:40 PM
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Default Hmmm...

I own a C6 and would LUUUV to have a C7. When I pull up next to a Camaro, a Mustang, a Mopar product, a Beemer I never feel uncomfortable or intimidated. I am in a vehicle I never imagined owning... A Vette!

I work for a large German company. When I bought the car, I let some of my management and collegues drive it (under close supervision of course). Every single German was suprised at how "Drivable" it was and commented "This would be a car to drive on European roads".

I am 61 years young and my wife and I both agree that it is the most comfortable automobile we have ever traveled in.

On the appearance...
I am new to the Corvette "Club", but it seems to me that every new version is critisized by the owners of the older versions.

Bottom line seems to me that these cars a competative with the rest of the world and may be the best bang for the buck out there.

Given the oportunity to own a C7, is there really anyone who would take a pass on that? I think not. I can't wait to line up the numbers and make my presentation to "She who must be obeyed".

It is a Corvette.
Old 10-08-2013, 04:18 PM
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I'm 18 and my C7 is being made as we speak! (no daddy didn't buy it)
I think the C7 looks good enough for youngsters to want to get it but c'mon it's a 51k+ super car and the economy isn't at it's greatest right now.
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Originally Posted by CodeRedXM
I'm 18 and my C7 is being made as we speak! (no daddy didn't buy it)
I think the C7 looks good enough for youngsters to want to get it but c'mon it's a 51k+ super car and the economy isn't at it's greatest right now.
That is great, another lifelong Corvette guy in the making. I didn't buy my first new vette till I was 20, a 63 split window. My first two were used, a 1953 ($500) when I was 17 and a 57 fuelie ($1,500) when I was 19.

Back in those days most of the vettes were owned by young guys and out of the friends I hung around with there were 8 that drove a vette.

I have owned a total of 25 vettes and paid for every dime of every one I have owned.

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I hope they kill the Corvette before they market it to millennials.
Otherwise it will turn into a slammed, stanced out, turbo 4cylinder, front wheel drive pile of crap.
The younger generation isn't engaged with cars, so I'm sure all these wonderful performance cars of today will probably die out.
Its a shame. But the younger generation (as a whole) doesn't know dick about sports cars.
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Originally Posted by nsad
Love this and the bonding experience with your son. I am 33, have three boys (11, 9, and 2.5) and I disagree with the article 100%. I love my c7 and enjoyed letting my boys be part of the process.
Right on!!!!!! I'm sure you and your boys are going to have fun with the car........ Good luck to you all.......
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Good points but unless the Corvette was AWD or lifted in another form factor, I'd never take it out in any major midwestern snowstorm.
Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim
A set of A/S tires makes a big difference.
Originally Posted by Quick Silver Z
I remember our friend Jack asking me to Photoshop tire chains on that car!
And you did a great job, thanks. I used the original pic, because trying to explain the chains would too complicated.

But, JUST FOR FUN, here's your photoshop job with the chains:
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Originally Posted by SilverC6AZ
I have not even read the OPs article yet, and I already don't give a sh%^ what it says. When it relates to cars the only person whose opinion matters to me, is ME.
Amen to that brother, I've been saying that ever since people started comparing other cars to the Corvette. I have no idea why people put so much faith into what other people say, buy what you want, it's that simple.
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Originally Posted by VIN666
The main reason my generation isn't as much into cars as we should be is that your generation did not raise us properly :P
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Hey!! I did my job. My son loves the Corvette and is buying my Mustang 5.0 off me for his first car purchase (but he really wants a Tesla )

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Originally Posted by dcbingaman
I think the writer is full of crap. The problem GM has with this car with Millenials, is that Millenials are not into cars, period.
Umm, maybe it has more to do with the fact that most "millenials" can't AFFORD to drop 50+ grand on a two-seat GT car? I would know, I am one. That's why I bought an 11 year old C5 for less than half of that and drive it daily. Most can't do that either for the reason I have already stated.
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Originally Posted by joenationwide
I hope they kill the Corvette before they market it to millennials.
Otherwise it will turn into a slammed, stanced out, turbo 4cylinder, front wheel drive pile of crap.
The younger generation isn't engaged with cars, so I'm sure all these wonderful performance cars of today will probably die out.
Its a shame. But the younger generation (as a whole) doesn't know dick about sports cars.
um no...most millennials rock those cars because its what we can afford.

cars look better with a bit of a drop and some stance

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Old 10-09-2013, 03:03 PM
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He's got a point. My kids 30 & 34 are more turned on by BMW's than my C6 Silver on Red. But the new C7 addresses those quality issues and has the performance, interior, fit and finish (I hope) that they respect.
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The C7 appeals to all ages, if anything, more to the younger ages. It sells to all ages. Naturally, do to its price, the cost of insurance and the impracticality of two seats for the family men and women, it will not be as high of a seller as it is to the 40+ crowd.

However, we need a resale market to keep a healthy new market going. Many younger buyers can afford a resale Vette that gets them started on their dream of owning a C7 (or 8 or 9) someday. Younger folks do buy resales. In other words, it is not just about new car sales stats!

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Originally Posted by Quick Silver Z
Ill get roasted for saying this....And i followed the rules...I counted to 30 and let that full of Shat comment slide off my back like a ducks oiled feathers...BUT, Im letting the steam roll....Im in my 40s, approaching 50 in a few....( ok 2 years,, LOL) I have created 3 corporations and sold my last empire at 7 large figures....I am in a position for a 991 or even a 458...Up until dec 2012, I was 991 all the way....the c7 was being put into the media as a really exciting wait...and when I saw it, looked at it in person at a private launch in Toronto Canada Wine Distillery unit I WAS SOLD...and then looking at price point and ability for #s and come on MEN, a 991 is cool, BUT the razor sharp edges, carved out hood and cool *** end make a 991 look conservative and thats coming from a guy who has always loved 991s( I owned a C6 DSOM, 2006 a few years back, miss is miserably) The cockpit on the 991 is nice but the C7 when you sit in it makes an amazing feeling arise.....I have a group of buds here in my Town who do many corvette activities and they all own C6s C5s and a few the Carbons.....all of which are in their 40s.....If the writer thinks for a second that a C7 will not excite a 20 year old, a 30year old a 40 year old and even a Young 50 year old...The writer is lost his credibility as a honest open minded individual and one that writes journals on the foundation of Biased report and payment.....ABsolutely, Wrong! what is the average age of the 991 buyer.....take into account that guys in their 50s and 60s might have some disposable income, but there are big numbers of buyers that buy these units at younger ages...We already outsold the Viper stats and does that mean Viper drivers at in their 70s?...All that GM said is they are trying to attract younger buyers...Well they converted me in my late 40s from a 991 to a C7 Z51 in 2 seconds, based JUST on the visual presentation on the internet in January....These writers typically area paid for drama and numbers.....Not sincerity.



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