450hp mike9

I have owned Ford Shelby's and my 2007 500hp had a design flaw in the flywheel and it was on all 07,08 and some 09.s Sometimes when you have high horsepower cars come problems with stess on parts.I had a nissan that had alot of teething problems. GM products two HHR's a 05 and a 11 NO problems @ all.10 Camaro SS no problems.Now a 14 Corvette no proplems . I have seen this on all forums from BMW.Ford and now GM. It comes with the nature of forums. Sometimes it is best to take some post with a grain of salt. The 14 Corvette has tested and tested more then you could imagine. Some people get in thier head it is new therefore it must have problems, The same old crap never buy a first year model is plain BS. AT lease we are not hearing Gov Motors crap.But I will say I am done reading on here and will spend time driving her. When I had a BMW 330i I would swear it was going to be a nightmare after reading the forums. The same thing with my Ford GT and those parts were high as hell and try finding a mechanic . Every one thinks they know the answers and only add to the confusion .

When I asked how long would it take to get my C7 ? Was told 2 months ,3 months and every thing in in betweem on this forum .I got it in 30 DAYS.Customer chat was pretty good and GM,er was great. There are about 10% of the people on here that knopw what the hell they are talking about. The problem is it is hard to filter the noise from the truth. GM is a new GM in my book. Can't wait to see the new C7r at the 24 of Daytona this coming JAN.

One last thing I have a 13 CTS coupe as a DD it still turns heads and love it and after 8 months not a visit to the service dept. I even had the oil change @ a chevy dealer for free. Cadillac dealer was to far.

Snorman

This is very well stated.
As I said to another member who is constantly looking for reasons to denounce the C7 in another thread last night, there have been 21 threads started with respect to "issues" with the C7 dating back to the day that the first customer cars were delivered (September 27th). Of those, probably half a what I would consider very minor issues (wrinkled leather seat, slight misalignment of the door panel/dash stitching, squealing brakes, center display light levels, two stuck pixels in a display, etc.). Maybe a couple were major...a failed diff unit, and ???. And a bunch that are easily resolved by the dealer (missing door sills, missing seat emblem, etc.). As of yesterday, GM'er's list showed 218 members' cars in status 5000. There are probably at least 100 cars delivered to regularly posting members on this forum. And there are 21 threads started with "issues".
That person also stated there were "many" cars with major orange peel. If you read the threads, there are about two people who complained that they had it and one person who saw a car at a dealer with heavy peel. Yeah, it's a real epidemic.

So agree completely, there are (as usual) a few people who are going to be griping the loudest and swinging feeble strawmen at "quality control problems" that just don't exist. And that's what going to draw more attention that the supposed "problems" themselves.
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Snorman

"The cars"? As in all of "the cars"? Or some of "the cars"?
Or much, much more appropriately, a very, very small sampling of "the cars"?
S.

khoeysr

New pieces fitting together in new ways. New employees who do not yet have experience in assembling the C7. I am hoping for a trouble free car but stuff happens.

In my past car life I have seen cars come off the truck with three wheels the same and one different; no windshield, not broken, just not there; hole in the dash where the radio is supposed to be.

b4i4getit

Obviously its some of the cars and not all. However I still maintain this should not be happening especially with all the hype about quality these days. I would not expect perfection. However I would not accept mediocrity either.

torijona

I was referring to both reliability and missing equipment. If people weren't calling customer service every 5 minutes to see where their car is at, etc, GM could allocate more resources to QC vs Customer Support. That is why my dealer probably loves me because I called him to build my order, then to get an explanation about shipping to the dealer vs shipping to Nashville, and the last call was to pick the car up.

We all have to be patient. It is a new process and people at the factory are humans too. You have your car under warranty and have time to check it out upon arrival. We, the customers, are the ones responsible for this to be high stress project. Hope everyone is enjoying the C7 as much as I am. It puts a smile on my face every day I go inside my garage.

And no worries, if anything happens, GM will take care of you. We are their "special" customers...

torijona

Couldn't have said it better

Cherokee Nation

Would hate to have problems on a long road trip..

ByByBMW

I'm going to post before I read the rest of the comments so I wont be influenced by what others have said.

I said in the beginning, I would not buy a first MY C7 because of the C6 release problems. And C6 problems continued to show up for a year + . It wasn't until 2007 that I began to see the amount, and variety, of problems start to drop off and by 2008, I figured it would be okay to buy and it was. I had a 2008 Z-51 as well as a 2008 Z06. My Z06 was perfect then, and for the LS7, even though the valve issue had already raised it's ugly head, even 3 years into the release, it didn't seem to be nearly as widespread a problem as it turns out to be.

I am with Big Dan 427 in my surprise at the amount, and the severity in some cases, of the release issues. I really don't remember it being this bad in last half 2004 and 2005 for the C6. (But I am over 60 so maybe faulty memory issues?)

The biggest problem, as I see it, is how GM hyped how great they were going to be after the bailout and all the work that went into the C7. A car that is now almost 3500 lbs (By at least one account), and has far more serious issues than they should have had for their HALO car release. And optioned the way I would want it, it would cost almost the same as my 2013 Boxster. So much for the bang for the buck argument.

You can't ship cars with no fluid, bad paint, missing parts, or even lose cars during shipping without some repercussions. I thought about maybe buying a 2015 because maybe GM was really going to get it right. But now I am back to thinking not before 2016 and I WILL be keeping a close eye on these forums and other sources of info before I decide.

Sorry to be a little lengthy here but Big Dan 427 asked for honest opinions and here is mine.

jschindler

So you don't think the problems posted on the forum can be extrapolated? If someone joins the forum to state a problem, thats one thing. But if the folks who are having problems have been on the forum anyway and are now reporting problems, then you can look at that as random sampling. Take the number of complaints to the number of forum members who have taken delivery of C7s and suddenly the percent of problems doesn't look so good.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying its an epidemic. But like I said in my earlier post, many of the problems - in fact virtually all of them are assembly or programming types of issues, not failures of components. That tells me that they were rushing them to meet the third quarter promise.

VIN666

I have never purchased a new vehicle without issues.
Neither in the states, nor in Europe.
My european Ford came with the wrong steering wheel and needed a new driver seat, because the airbag was dead.
My US Ford needed the trans cables (stick) re-adjusted and one tire didn't hold air from day one.
My 40k Rubicon had so many issues, I don't even care to list them all...
And so on and so forth.

Snorman

Isn't stating "this should not be happening" in one breath, and "I would not expect perfection" a complete contradiction?
There are going to be issues, some minor, others major. It's the rate of issues that determines the overall success of GM's QC. The bigger issue is that people beat the drum and repeat them over and over again until they become completely overblown. How many stupid comments and jokes have been made about "exploding" or "fluidless" differentials because it happened with one single car of which we know?
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Snorman

Really?
So 21 threads and probably 25-30 stated problems against 218 cars on GM'ers list "doesn't look so good"?
Have you see how JD Powers rates cars for "Initial Quality"? Hint: It's Problems Per 100 units and the highest scoring cars are in the 80-90 range.
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C7_Z06

Complainers, naysayers, pessimists, haters, etc... it's simple, don't buy the new Stingray. Look elsewhere.

We'll enjoy ours...

sprtplt

It is much worse than that. A lot of us will do everything possible to NEVER use the dealer service department. As is oft repeated here, in most dealerships, the Corvette and the Corvette owner are treated just like the Spark owner.

Daekwan06

Want to really laugh.

Look at those who are "complaining" in this thread. NONE of them even own a C7. That says everything that needs to be said.

csf

Perhaps, but the poster specifically said he wanted something "more stable and reliable". That ain't a Porsche. Personally, I'd rather have a missing door sill then a complete engine failure.

And for the RMS problem, why is it fair to give Porsche a pass because it was a "design issue" and not a manufacturing issue. I call BS. Its all one company, they charge outrageous prices for their products and present themselves as a premier engineering organization and status symbol.

red2012

so that would mean issues in 21% of the cars delivered and that's acceptable? That's pretty bad in my book.

ByByBMW

I don't know about you, but I research many of the items I intend to buy BEFORE I own them. From the lowly toaster all the way up to my cars. I don't need to own a C7 to post a thought about my perception of the initial release because I am researching, and the evidence is what it is.

Kappa

As said earlier, forums will always skew the preception as the loudest posters will always get the attention, and the people actively looking to deem the new car a failure will keep the threads going. Many of them are in this very thread.