Lowering on stock bolts - Instructions and Photos
#441
Race Director
I just went out to the garage to check the gap on all four corners and discovered something interesting, the gaps on the front are both even however on the rear the passenger side actually sits 5/8" lower than on the driver's side. That seems like a big difference considering both rear bolts were turned to their lowest setting. I wonder if the driver's side might settle a bit more and be as low as the passenger side? Or maybe it's possibly designed for the driver's side to be slightly higher, because I bet that when you add the extra 180 pounds of me, the driver's side rear will drop enough so that it's even with the other side.
#442
Le Mans Master
You probably already thought of this, but keep in mind there is a pitch in the garage. In my case, much more pronounced on my left bay than my right. When I park on my left bay, there is a visible difference in my wheel well heights front to back. But in any case, wait a while, it really took a good couple hundred miles for all 4 corners on my car to fully settle
#444
Race Director
You probably already thought of this, but keep in mind there is a pitch in the garage. In my case, much more pronounced on my left bay than my right. When I park on my left bay, there is a visible difference in my wheel well heights front to back. But in any case, wait a while, it really took a good couple hundred miles for all 4 corners on my car to fully settle
I only have one picture of my car so far from the driver's side view, and it was taken after just driving the car one mile around the block, so keep that in mind, but here is that picture to compare to the others (keeping in mind the car had been driven about 70 miles since the lowering in those shots)
Last edited by Patman; 01-29-2018 at 10:13 PM.
#445
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If not mentioned previously in the voluminous posts here, which admittedly I gave up on after my first lifetime, it would be interesting to go to a dealer with a reasonably large number of C7s and actually measure the fender-well edge heights at all four wheels on a selection and compare.
#446
Race Director
So for the past week this has really been bothering me that my driver's side rear sits 5/8" higher than the other side, and I haven't been able to drive the car at all (winter is back!) so I can't see if it will settle some more on that one side, nor can I drive the car to different areas to see if my garage isn't level (I am pretty sure it's perfectly level though) So let's just say that once all is settled, that the driver's side rear is still 5/8" higher. What can cause such a huge discrepancy? Both bolts are definitely cranked down as far as they'll go. I love the ride height from the passenger side point of view, I just really want the driver's side to come down just as low.
This might sound crazy but I went into the garage today and loaded up the driver's side section inside the cargo area with over 100 pounds of extra weight, so that it would compress that side. (and it did actually compress it by 5/8") I'm not sure if that'll help speed up the settling process at all, but if I can't drive the car for the next few weeks, maybe this might have a minor effect in helping that side settle a bit more quickly? What if I load it up with even more weight?
This might sound crazy but I went into the garage today and loaded up the driver's side section inside the cargo area with over 100 pounds of extra weight, so that it would compress that side. (and it did actually compress it by 5/8") I'm not sure if that'll help speed up the settling process at all, but if I can't drive the car for the next few weeks, maybe this might have a minor effect in helping that side settle a bit more quickly? What if I load it up with even more weight?
Last edited by Patman; 02-03-2018 at 11:51 PM.
#447
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So for the past week this has really been bothering me that my driver's side rear sits 5/8" higher than the other side, and I haven't been able to drive the car at all (winter is back!) so I can't see if it will settle some more on that one side, nor can I drive the car to different areas to see if my garage isn't level (I am pretty sure it's perfectly level though) So let's just say that once all is settled, that the driver's side rear is still 5/8" higher. What can cause such a huge discrepancy? Both bolts are definitely cranked down as far as they'll go. I love the ride height from the passenger side point of view, I just really want the driver's side to come down just as low.
This might sound crazy but I went into the garage today and loaded up the driver's side section inside the cargo area with over 100 pounds of extra weight, so that it would compress that side. (and it did actually compress it by 5/8") I'm not sure if that'll help speed up the settling process at all, but if I can't drive the car for the next few weeks, maybe this might have a minor effect in helping that side settle a bit more quickly? What if I load it up with even more weight?
This might sound crazy but I went into the garage today and loaded up the driver's side section inside the cargo area with over 100 pounds of extra weight, so that it would compress that side. (and it did actually compress it by 5/8") I'm not sure if that'll help speed up the settling process at all, but if I can't drive the car for the next few weeks, maybe this might have a minor effect in helping that side settle a bit more quickly? What if I load it up with even more weight?
Dave
Last edited by SterlingDrive; 02-04-2018 at 07:01 AM.
#448
Race Director
I think I should wait on the alignment though, especially if it's not fully settled and the driver's side rear still might come down that significant amount. (fingers crossed that it actually will!)
#449
You can check visually to verify that the rear driver bolt is still dialed in to its' lowest position.
#451
Race Director
#452
Race Director
You probably already thought of this, but keep in mind there is a pitch in the garage. In my case, much more pronounced on my left bay than my right. When I park on my left bay, there is a visible difference in my wheel well heights front to back. But in any case, wait a while, it really took a good couple hundred miles for all 4 corners on my car to fully settle
Also, I forgot to mention that the weight that I put in the driver's side of the trunk a few weeks ago actually did help to settle that side of the car a tiny bit as well (at first it was about 100 pounds but then I added another 100 more)
So I'm no longer worried about my ride height, I think even if the driver's side rear is 1/4" higher than the rest it's not a big deal, especially since that side will come down with me in the driver's side.
#453
Racer
The Chevy service guy said they can back out if you are cornering hard. Really???? How about a little locktite?
#455
Race Director
Once the suspension settles (after driving a few hundred miles) it comes down a bit more than those pictures would indicate. Most people will see about 3/4 to 1" drop, which is enough to get rid of that 4x4 stance from the factory.
#456
Mine is still settling down, so I'm not sure what my final height will be.
ANYTHING to get rid of the ridiculous 4x4 look is worth it to me.
A Corvette should look like a serious Sportscar, not a Grand Cherokee.
ANYTHING to get rid of the ridiculous 4x4 look is worth it to me.
A Corvette should look like a serious Sportscar, not a Grand Cherokee.
#457
Instructor
noticeable degradation in cooling ability...?
In this Ask Tadge thread: [ANSWERED] Melting AFM Actuators:
Has anyone observed noticeable degradation in cooling efficiency in either daily drive use mode or on track after lowering the car by this method?
Tadge answered:
Corvettes have long pushed the technology envelope to make a car that is both supremely fast and remarkably efficient. That often means we are doing things no other manufacturer would try. The combination of true cylinder de-activation (meaning keeping cylinder valves closed, not just turning off fuel injectors as many others do) in a track-ready car is an example. We did do our normal 24 track testing with the AFM valves in place without issue. Perhaps the way we run our test can help folks running on the track avoid problems.
A few important points: The valves are very sensitive to air flow under the car. Anything that restricts that airflow could increase the chance of an issue arising. These would include any aftermarket aerodynamic or cooling aides. Also, lowering the standing height (which many folks are tempted to do to lower the center of gravity) of the vehicle below spec has a measurable negative effect.
Corvettes have long pushed the technology envelope to make a car that is both supremely fast and remarkably efficient. That often means we are doing things no other manufacturer would try. The combination of true cylinder de-activation (meaning keeping cylinder valves closed, not just turning off fuel injectors as many others do) in a track-ready car is an example. We did do our normal 24 track testing with the AFM valves in place without issue. Perhaps the way we run our test can help folks running on the track avoid problems.
A few important points: The valves are very sensitive to air flow under the car. Anything that restricts that airflow could increase the chance of an issue arising. These would include any aftermarket aerodynamic or cooling aides. Also, lowering the standing height (which many folks are tempted to do to lower the center of gravity) of the vehicle below spec has a measurable negative effect.
#458
Race Director
Notice that Tadge also says lowering the vehicle below spec. That could possibly mean that if you set it to the lowest height on stock bolts, it's still technically within spec. But anything lower than that, such as with coil overs or aftermarket bolts, would then be below spec.
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#459
Quick question. Process to lower shows putting car on jack stands then to jack up each wheel off the ground by jacking up on the leaf spring to off load the wheel. Any problem just jacking up on the leaf spring, while car sitting on the ground?