✅SOLUTION Everything you wanted to know about your FOB's and RKE
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Do you still have the C6 Tables. If so, can you re-post or point me to a link. I'm having a problem, and at this point have changed battery in both FOB's. Have not tested car battery, but it is relatively new and seems fully charged. Thanks for your help..
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>>C6 Fob Programming and Glove Box Slot Testing Procedures<<
Aftermarket radios can cause an issue when you try to get into the programming mode. The radio triggers a code that the radio security feature is not talking to the ECM properly. If you have an aftermarket radio and did not buy the harness for the door beeps and OnStar, you might NOT be able to get into programming mode.
European Spec cars cannot do any FOB programming and must use the dealer.
Canadian Spec cars can ADD FOBs (short method) but must use dealer for long method.
Slot check 1-6
Short Method 1-3, 7, 8, 6 (add FOB)
Long Method 1-3, 9-15. Program fresh set of FOBs to the car.
If all else fails:
1) Put metal key in key cylinder back by license plate. Dont turn it yet, just leave it in there for now.
2) Put old, already-programmed-and-working fob in center console cupholder
3) Turn car 'on' using start button (you dont have to start it -- doesnt matter), then press start button again to turn car OFF.
4) Immediately run (yes, RUN) to the back of the car and turn the key five times. If you physically cant get back there very fast, have a helper ready to turn the key five times when you turn car off. This should trigger the "FOB" message on DIC.
5) Carry out the rest of the fob learning procedure as normal.
This is the ONLY way my car will go into "fob learn mode". If I wait even 5-7 seconds between steps 3 and 4, my car will never go into fob learn mode, no matter how hard or fast I turn the key.
OR
Insure that you are not carrying your cell phone in your pocket. and try it again.
Elmer
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great job
[QUOTE=eboggs_jkvl;1586080548]I had the C6 and I developed some step action tables to help people that experienced fob issues. I am trying to do that same service for the C7 owners.
I have the 2014 Owner's manual PDF and I've referred to that document plus I've carried over some of the logic from the C6 process to develop 2 separate tables.
I would appreciate help from you on this in the form of feedback on any errors that may appear in the tables. I will place the tables in here using a PDF format. I have the tables in a MS Word.DOCX format and I can edit and update them quite easily.
First table--> >>C7 RKE Programming<<
2nd table --> >>C7 RKE Not Detected<<
1st & 2 nd are right on the money, work great for my 2014???now my 2017 is just like nuts "HELP" it said you need two working remotes???
HELP ME, DO I NEED TO ASK GM,,,
I have the 2014 Owner's manual PDF and I've referred to that document plus I've carried over some of the logic from the C6 process to develop 2 separate tables.
I would appreciate help from you on this in the form of feedback on any errors that may appear in the tables. I will place the tables in here using a PDF format. I have the tables in a MS Word.DOCX format and I can edit and update them quite easily.
First table--> >>C7 RKE Programming<<
2nd table --> >>C7 RKE Not Detected<<
1st & 2 nd are right on the money, work great for my 2014???now my 2017 is just like nuts "HELP" it said you need two working remotes???
HELP ME, DO I NEED TO ASK GM,,,
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[QUOTE=azvetters;1593625927]
OK, be specific. I don't understand the question. What step are you having problems? Which of the two PDFs (Programming or Not Detected)are you using?
What problem are you having with the RKEs?
Elmer
I had the C6 and I developed some step action tables to help people that experienced fob issues. I am trying to do that same service for the C7 owners.
I have the 2014 Owner's manual PDF and I've referred to that document plus I've carried over some of the logic from the C6 process to develop 2 separate tables.
I would appreciate help from you on this in the form of feedback on any errors that may appear in the tables. I will place the tables in here using a PDF format. I have the tables in a MS Word.DOCX format and I can edit and update them quite easily.
First table--> >>C7 RKE Programming<<
2nd table --> >>C7 RKE Not Detected<<
1st & 2 nd are right on the money, work great for my 2014???now my 2017 is just like nuts "HELP" it said you need two working remotes???
HELP ME, DO I NEED TO ASK GM,,,
I have the 2014 Owner's manual PDF and I've referred to that document plus I've carried over some of the logic from the C6 process to develop 2 separate tables.
I would appreciate help from you on this in the form of feedback on any errors that may appear in the tables. I will place the tables in here using a PDF format. I have the tables in a MS Word.DOCX format and I can edit and update them quite easily.
First table--> >>C7 RKE Programming<<
2nd table --> >>C7 RKE Not Detected<<
1st & 2 nd are right on the money, work great for my 2014???now my 2017 is just like nuts "HELP" it said you need two working remotes???
HELP ME, DO I NEED TO ASK GM,,,
What problem are you having with the RKEs?
Elmer
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I need help, I have 2017 Stingray and lost one key fob, dealer quoted around $350 for new fob (included programming and cut new key), so I took some advice from some members on this forum and bough new key on internet. my question is, can I program new key with your instructions for C7 above? if I screw up can I still use the #1 original key? Thanks
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I need help, I have 2017 Stingray and lost one key fob, dealer quoted around $350 for new fob (included programming and cut new key), so I took some advice from some members on this forum and bough new key on internet. my question is, can I program new key with your instructions for C7 above? if I screw up can I still use the #1 original key? Thanks
1) Add it as #3 but it will not work with the memory functions. This allows the lost RKE to still unlock and start the car. (Not good)
2) Add it as #2 and it will be functioning as the original #1 & #2. To do this, use the LONG procedure. It will erase #1 in the process and will re-add #1 & #2. This will render useless the original lost RKE so were someone find it, somehow figure out where you live, they could not use the RKE to unlock or start the car.
Elmer
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You have 2 choices:
1) Add it as #3 but it will not work with the memory functions. This allows the lost RKE to still unlock and start the car. (Not good)
2) Add it as #2 and it will be functioning as the original #1 & #2. To do this, use the LONG procedure. It will erase #1 in the process and will re-add #1 & #2. This will render useless the original lost RKE so were someone find it, somehow figure out where you live, they could not use the RKE to unlock or start the car.
Elmer
1) Add it as #3 but it will not work with the memory functions. This allows the lost RKE to still unlock and start the car. (Not good)
2) Add it as #2 and it will be functioning as the original #1 & #2. To do this, use the LONG procedure. It will erase #1 in the process and will re-add #1 & #2. This will render useless the original lost RKE so were someone find it, somehow figure out where you live, they could not use the RKE to unlock or start the car.
Elmer
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You have 2 choices:
1) Add it as #3 but it will not work with the memory functions. This allows the lost RKE to still unlock and start the car. (Not good)
2) Add it as #2 and it will be functioning as the original #1 & #2. To do this, use the LONG procedure. It will erase #1 in the process and will re-add #1 & #2. This will render useless the original lost RKE so were someone find it, somehow figure out where you live, they could not use the RKE to unlock or start the car.
Elmer
1) Add it as #3 but it will not work with the memory functions. This allows the lost RKE to still unlock and start the car. (Not good)
2) Add it as #2 and it will be functioning as the original #1 & #2. To do this, use the LONG procedure. It will erase #1 in the process and will re-add #1 & #2. This will render useless the original lost RKE so were someone find it, somehow figure out where you live, they could not use the RKE to unlock or start the car.
Elmer
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You have 2 choices:
1) Add it as #3 but it will not work with the memory functions. This allows the lost RKE to still unlock and start the car. (Not good)
2) Add it as #2 and it will be functioning as the original #1 & #2. To do this, use the LONG procedure. It will erase #1 in the process and will re-add #1 & #2. This will render useless the original lost RKE so were someone find it, somehow figure out where you live, they could not use the RKE to unlock or start the car.
Elmer
1) Add it as #3 but it will not work with the memory functions. This allows the lost RKE to still unlock and start the car. (Not good)
2) Add it as #2 and it will be functioning as the original #1 & #2. To do this, use the LONG procedure. It will erase #1 in the process and will re-add #1 & #2. This will render useless the original lost RKE so were someone find it, somehow figure out where you live, they could not use the RKE to unlock or start the car.
Elmer
I just bought a car with one remote. Bought another remote but want to retain memory functions for #1 and #2. Thanks Elmer.
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I have a question that is about battery life in the fob. First you need to understand my history with vettes. I had a C4 and a couple of C5's (still have one of them). In the two C5's that I have owned (2000,2004) the fob was a push a button to get something to happen. On my C4 it was similar to the C7 in the regard of having it on you as you came up to or walked away from would unlock/lock the vehicle. When the fob was not in use, it would shut off (via a motion detector) to save battery life. In fact one procedure was if you left the fob in the car, after some time it would shut off and then the car sensed it out of range and the doors locked. Some people would rock the car to get the fob to sense motion and wake up which would cause the car to unlock.
In my C7, when I leave the fob in the car it chirps three times but the car never locks.
So with this in mind, then the fob in the C7 is constantly sending out a signal all the time and never shuts off if left in the car?
Or if I take it away from the car and it locks does the fob recognize this and go into some sort of sleep/off mode?
If it is true that the fob never shuts off, then I would think that a hard time replacement of the battery would be in order.
Sorry if I am stating the obvious to some but I am trying to get my head around how this thing works.
VH
In my C7, when I leave the fob in the car it chirps three times but the car never locks.
So with this in mind, then the fob in the C7 is constantly sending out a signal all the time and never shuts off if left in the car?
Or if I take it away from the car and it locks does the fob recognize this and go into some sort of sleep/off mode?
If it is true that the fob never shuts off, then I would think that a hard time replacement of the battery would be in order.
Sorry if I am stating the obvious to some but I am trying to get my head around how this thing works.
VH
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The RKE does not transmit a constant signal to the car. When you are within a short distance to the car and you do something that the RKE needs to respond to, the car does the work and the antenna in the RKE wakes up the RKE to respond to the signal from the car. A battery in the RKE lasts about 3 years and then you need to change it.
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Thank you for the response. I think I see this now. I had it flipped over thinking it was like my C4.The RKE then is in a constant state of being a "receiver" causing the battery drain that is reducing the battery life.
Thanks again.
VH
Thanks again.
VH
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First off thanks Elmer for your help with RKE programming.
Got my "new" fob yesterday. Same part number as existing fob.
Programming went as expected and new fob took over the #3 spot.
The buttons would not work. Removed the recognized "old" fob from the car
got into the car with the #3 fob and DIC says no fob detected. I then put the
fob into the column slot and the car started.
Checked the battery in the fob and noted the frequency was 315MHz.
Looked in the old working fob and noted the frequency was 434MHz.
Looks like the new fob took up the #3 spot but the buttons would not work because of different frequencies. The car still recognizes the new fob if it is in the column slot and the car will start.
Maybe the fob I bought is for a different country?
The part number was the same.
Getting a refund, so that part is good.
Got my "new" fob yesterday. Same part number as existing fob.
Programming went as expected and new fob took over the #3 spot.
The buttons would not work. Removed the recognized "old" fob from the car
got into the car with the #3 fob and DIC says no fob detected. I then put the
fob into the column slot and the car started.
Checked the battery in the fob and noted the frequency was 315MHz.
Looked in the old working fob and noted the frequency was 434MHz.
Looks like the new fob took up the #3 spot but the buttons would not work because of different frequencies. The car still recognizes the new fob if it is in the column slot and the car will start.
Maybe the fob I bought is for a different country?
The part number was the same.
Getting a refund, so that part is good.
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First off thanks Elmer for your help with RKE programming.
Got my "new" fob yesterday. Same part number as existing fob.
Programming went as expected and new fob took over the #3 spot.
The buttons would not work. Removed the recognized "old" fob from the car
got into the car with the #3 fob and DIC says no fob detected. I then put the
fob into the column slot and the car started.
Checked the battery in the fob and noted the frequency was 315MHz.
Looked in the old working fob and noted the frequency was 434MHz.
Looks like the new fob took up the #3 spot but the buttons would not work because of different frequencies. The car still recognizes the new fob if it is in the column slot and the car will start.
Maybe the fob I bought is for a different country?
The part number was the same.
Getting a refund, so that part is good.
Got my "new" fob yesterday. Same part number as existing fob.
Programming went as expected and new fob took over the #3 spot.
The buttons would not work. Removed the recognized "old" fob from the car
got into the car with the #3 fob and DIC says no fob detected. I then put the
fob into the column slot and the car started.
Checked the battery in the fob and noted the frequency was 315MHz.
Looked in the old working fob and noted the frequency was 434MHz.
Looks like the new fob took up the #3 spot but the buttons would not work because of different frequencies. The car still recognizes the new fob if it is in the column slot and the car will start.
Maybe the fob I bought is for a different country?
The part number was the same.
Getting a refund, so that part is good.
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