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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 05:33 AM
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Ok, some of you will most likely think this is a stupid question. And some of you will respond" Then why did you ask"?. I've owned 2 Mustang GT's. The last was the 2012 premium. Never owning or even driving a corvette I have a 2014 with the Z51 package coming hopefully in a month or so. I'm curious if anyone out there drove the Mustang, the new one with 412 horses. It has some power. Will I really feel the difference in the two? Not talking about all around performance because I know the chevy blows the ford away, just pure power. Thanks
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You will notice the torque difference. The push Rod Chevy has more torque at lower RPMs. The horsepower in the Chevrolet does not need high RPMs.

Enjoy your new Corvette.
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
You will notice the torque difference. The push Rod Chevy has more torque at lower RPMs. The horsepower in the Chevrolet does not need high RPMs.

Enjoy your new Corvette.
So what does this actually mean in terms of feel...acceleration...quickness, etc? Thanks!
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It "may" feel like the torque and power come sooner. Not so much at full throttle but from mid range like passing or going down a ramp. Hard to explain unless you drive them both back to back. Some like the high RPM of the Ford engine, I prefer the strong pull at low RPM's from the Vette.
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
It "may" feel like the torque and power come sooner. Not so much at full throttle but from mid range like passing or going down a ramp. Hard to explain unless you drive them both back to back. Some like the high RPM of the Ford engine, I prefer the strong pull at low RPM's from the Vette.
Is this primarily felt in a manual or do you feel the same torque and power you describe in an A6 as well?
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 07:18 AM
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The Mustangs have an optional 3:73 rear gear that really wakes them up in the seat of the pants department. So it will depend on what gear the Mustangs in your frame of reference were equipped with. I have not yet driven a C7 but would expect from the tq curve that it has a very ballsy, fun to drive character likely in excess of what the current Mustang GT delivers. The HP and TQ figures on the '15 GTs are soon to go public and expected to be at or close to the 450 mark on HP with TQ just south of that. This will be a strong player with the rumored 200 lb. weight loss.
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I am coming out of a 2014 GT500 and I expect to feel nothing close to the HP and torque. I am however excited to have a much better interior and better handling. I also expect to feel more controlled with the acceleration as the GT500 would spin thru the gears.
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I think to truly tell the difference a standard shift works best. The programming of an automatic tends to take advantage of the different torque curves. As DR Must. Says gearing has a lot to do with the feel. High RPM motors use more rear ratio. A good torque motor will pull a stiff gear in the diff.

I guess the best thing I could say is you will enjoy driving your new C7. Trying to compare with another performance car using personal feel rather then actual numbers is difficult.

Like dating two different woman with different attributes but both of them are wonderful.
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Like dating two different woman with different attributes but both of them are wonderful.
How cool is that!
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The Mustangs have an optional 3:73 rear gear that really wakes them up in the seat of the pants department. So it will depend on what gear the Mustangs in your frame of reference were equipped with. I have not yet driven a C7 but would expect from the tq curve that it has a very ballsy, fun to drive character likely in excess of what the current Mustang GT delivers. The HP and TQ figures on the '15 GTs are soon to go public and expected to be at or close to the 450 mark on HP with TQ just south of that. This will be a strong player with the rumored 200 lb. weight loss.
Mustang weight loss is only a rumor at this point. Stingray weighs about 300 lbs less than the 2014 Mustang GT and the torque is 465 for the performance exhaust. So the Stingray will thrill with 0-60 and 1/4 mile. But where you will really see the difference is in the cornering with the Z51 vs Mustang GT. The low center of gravity, the 50/50 weight distribution and electronically controlled rear diff will make the Stingray seem much more capable in handling and cornering.
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The C7 Stingray runs rings around the S197 Mustang particularly on curves since the C7 handles so well. My Boss 302 accelerates quite swiftly (nearly 4 secs to 60 & mid 12s in the quarter) although my C7 is still steps ahead... but it just "feels" more mechanically raw in the Mustang than the more techno-advanced C7. Both are awesome cars; love 'em but I'll be honest I'll take a C7 first over any current (and 6th gen) Mustang since the C7 is the complete package, period.
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Originally Posted by ENCT
I am coming out of a 2014 GT500 and I expect to feel nothing close to the HP and torque. I am however excited to have a much better interior and better handling. I also expect to feel more controlled with the acceleration as the GT500 would spin thru the gears.
Eric
I had a Shelby GT/SC 2007 with a whipple. It dynoed at 497 rwhp.

I have a 2014 Z51.

The Z51 pulls damn near if not the same seat of pants.

The Vette is no comparison to my Shelby. It is FAR superior in all catagories.

I ran a 12.077 1/4 mile on street tire in Shelby, but usually ran a 12.4 as traction was an issue. On the street it could get hairy if you did not watch your throttle input.

My Mustang was a 2007.

Never driven a new Mustang other than a rental sled. Mustangs are made to be many things Vettes are made for one.

Apples and Oranges.

Enjoy your Vette!

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I owned both a base '11 GT and a premium '13 GT auto, I didnt drive them for long stock, put a 2.3 TVS on both of them within 500 miles of new. But the '11 I did put a cold air kit and a tune in for a while and no doubt the C7 'feels' way faster. It has a lot more torque and its lighter - you feel it.

I liked the Mustang GTs, with the blowers and drag radials they ran high 10s and got 25mpg, plus they have a back seat. But they do get a little boring and handling/braking is so-so, especially with an extra 75lbs on the nose.

The C7 is a much nicer car overall, is should be since it costs nearly twice as much I'm not really a 'Corvette person' but I do enjoy driving them more than Mustangs. One thing to always remember are the Mustangs are all pretty much the same base 6cylinder with more HP and suspension added to make them quicker and handle better. A Corvette is designed from the ground up as a two seat sports car..
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I don’t know what the first gear ratio is in the Mustang but I’d bet that combined with the 3.73 rear, the total multiplication is far higher than in even the Z51. Bet a C7 with the GTs gearing would be severely traction limited. Don
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Stingray > Mustang
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I think the most noticeable difference will be in the handling department with the Mustang feeling like a land-yacht in comparison. I have a Camaro and that is the biggest difference from my Corvettes is the ability to point the front end. Getting rid of the solid rear axle will be a big plus, also.
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Originally Posted by C7_Stingray
The C7 Stingray runs rings around the S197 Mustang particularly on curves since the C7 handles so well. My Boss 302 accelerates quite swiftly (nearly 4 secs to 60 & mid 12s in the quarter) although my C7 is still steps ahead... but it just "feels" more mechanically raw in the Mustang than the more techno-advanced C7. Both are awesome cars; love 'em but I'll be honest I'll take a C7 first over any current (and 6th gen) Mustang since the C7 is the complete package, period.
Has anyone driven the 2015 Mustang? Are there road tests for the car yet. I didn't think there were yet. I don't doubt the Corvette C7 will be a better performer than the 2015 Mustang, but until there is real information, how can you say you would take the C7? To me, that just sounds like someone who would take the C7 over anything just because it is a C7 (unless that is based primarily on looks since we know what the Mustang will look like).

The Mustang will probably be the best bang for the buck in performance, but I expect it will fall short of the C7 in overall performance. I do think it will be much less expensive than the C7.
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Mustangs are for boys!!

Corvettes are for men!!!!

I know some of you are going to roll your eyes.. But its just how I feel..
Let the ribbing begin!!! lol
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Originally Posted by Bill17601

Like dating two different woman with different attributes but both of them are wonderful.
Make sure you keep them apart so their cycles don't sync. Someone should come up with a skip shift to prevent that.
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