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Old 04-27-2014, 06:21 PM
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Check out the May issue of Motor Trend. They positively gush about the Z28 and its multimatic suspension. Is this really a superior track suspension to the magnetic ride control in the C7 ? I am starting to wonder when we will see the multimatic suspension available for the Corvette.
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Check out the May issue of Motor Trend. They positively gush about the Z28 and its multimatic suspension. Is this really a superior track suspension to the magnetic ride control in the C7 ? I am starting to wonder when we will see the multimatic suspension available for the Corvette.
Z28 = race car. They should gush about the suspension.

Unless there is a track version of the Z06, doubting we will see it.
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Originally Posted by gthal
Z28 = race car. They should gush about the suspension.

Unless there is a track version of the Z06, doubting we will see it.
Last time I checked the Z06 is more of track car than anything else. The top end version of the C7 Z06 should have this technology if it is superior.
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If I were planning on tracking a C7(Z51 or Z06) I think I would prefer the shocks and the LSD that is used on the Z28 instead of the mag ride and the e-LSD.

Might even be preferable for the street.
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The thing that makes sit on the fence about the MRC is the fact that you won't be able to adjust the balance of the car, not to mention the high cost of replacement. But the same could be said for the Multimatic shocks on the Z28 - they aren't adjustable either.

Somebody needs to show us the way!
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Last time I checked the Z06 is more of track car than anything else. The top end version of the C7 Z06 should have this technology if it is superior.
z06 is not even close to the new Z28 when it comes to being a track car. it's a 75k dollar camaro.....the camaro is a 30k dollar car. if you want a 150k dollar corvette then I guess it could be a track car like the Z28. I'd rather have a 80k dollar Z06 with MRC all day.
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Check out the May issue of Motor Trend. They positively gush about the Z28 and its multimatic suspension. Is this really a superior track suspension to the magnetic ride control in the C7 ? I am starting to wonder when we will see the multimatic suspension available for the Corvette.
The Z28 is a Camaro designed for the track. The Z06 was designed for the street first with great track capabilities. With that comes compromises that the Camaro doesn't make and comfort and road worthiness are high on the list of compromises that the Camaro makes. At the end of the day, I'd bet the Z06 is faster on the track with it's lowly (sarcastic) MSRC than the Z28 with it's Multimatic suspension. The Z07 with it's upgraded aero package, brakes etc is more geared towards the track but even still, it's a compromise. Then again, the MSRC in the C7 in track mode is still great track oriented suspension and isn't much of a compromise. The C7 becomes a literal go cart and is amazingly flat and predictable in high G turns as well as in rougher pavement. MSRC is really a good "best of both worlds" solution with very little compromise. At the end of the day the Camaro is a cheap (relatively speaking)out of the box race car. If you were going to exclusively race the C7, there are a lot of things you'd be changing or removing on the C7 before you worry about the shocks and at that point, you'd be going coil over.

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Originally Posted by slief
At the end of the day, I'd bet the Z06 is faster on the track with it's lowly (sarcastic) MSRC than the Z28 with it's Multimatic suspension.

There is no betting needed here Slief. The C7 Z06 will demolish a Z28 on any track regardless of the suspension choice GM used.

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Originally Posted by slief


The Z28 is a Camaro designed for the track. The Z06 was designed for the street first with great track capabilities. With that comes compromises that the Camaro doesn't make and comfort and road worthiness are high on the list of compromises that the Camaro makes. At the end of the day, I'd bet the Z06 is faster on the track with it's lowly (sarcastic) MSRC than the Z28 with it's Multimatic suspension. The Z07 with it's upgraded aero package, brakes etc is more geared towards the track but even still, it's a compromise. Then again, the MSRC in the C7 in track mode is still great track oriented suspension and isn't much of a compromise. The C7 becomes a literal go cart and is amazingly flat and predictable in high G turns as well as in rougher pavement. MSRC is really a good "best of both worlds" solution with very little compromise. At the end of the day the Camaro is a cheap (relatively speaking)out of the box race car. If you were going to exclusively race the C7, there are a lot of things you'd be changing or removing on the C7 before you worry about the shocks and at that point, you'd be going coil over.
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Yeah but the Camaro doesn't have leaf springs!
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Originally Posted by gthal
There is no guessing Slief. The C7 Z06 will demolish a Z28 on any track regardless of the suspension choice GM used.
I don't think that that was the question. The OP didn't ask for a comparison between the C7 Z06 and the Z28 on the track. The obsolete C6 Z06 will demolish a Z28 and the C7 Z06 should outperform the C6 Z06.

The question was how would the C7 perform if it had the same type suspension( and the limited slip differential)as the Z28 instead of the mag ride?


I would like to see a comparison(both on the track and on the street) between a C7 Z51 with mag ride and eLSD, and a C7 Z51 with the Z28's shocks and LSD, or a C7 Z06 with the mag ride and eLSD, and a C7 Z06 with the Z28's shocks and LSD.

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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I don't think that that was the question. The OP didn't ask for a comparison between the C7 Z06 and the Z28 on the track.
I understand that isn't what they OP was asking I was just responding to a comment from slief

I agree, however, that it would interesting to see what, if any, difference a C7 would have from the Z28 suspension. The problem is we may never know.
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Bottom line is that all suspensions that come from the factory are compromising something to be streetable. The Multimatic shocks are truly motorsport quality dampers, but with that said there are other options that will become available for the C7 that will probably be superior to the Multimatics.

With Coilovers you can really decide on your spring rates and set the car up with the proper bump and rebound for each track. That said, I would guess the average guy that takes his Z51 to the track could drive it for years and be very happy with the performance.

I have a car set up with Coilovers, double adjustable for the track with high spring rate linear springs, the car handles magically but I would bet I'll put down much faster laps with this Vette with the Magnetic dampers.

The car is so well set up when it leaves the factory and has already been tuned.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
I don't think that that was the question. The OP didn't ask for a comparison between the C7 Z06 and the Z28 on the track. The obsolete C6 Z06 will demolish a Z28 and the C7 Z06 should outperform the C6 Z06.

The question was how would the C7 perform if it had the same type suspension( and the limited slip differential)as the Z28 instead of the mag ride?


I would like to see a comparison(both on the track and on the street) between a C7 Z51 with mag ride and eLSD, and a C7 Z51 with the Z28's shocks and LSD, or a C7 Z06 with the mag ride and eLSD, and a C7 Z06 with the Z28's shocks and LSD.
Thanks JoesC5. That's where I was going with this. I was just concerned that the Corvette team was resting on their MSRC while the Camaro team was being innovative with this other technology.

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